From: Jens Axboe <axboe-tSWWG44O7X1aa/9Udqfwiw@public.gmane.org>
To: Kent Overstreet <koverstreet-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: linux-bcache-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
dm-devel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 4/8] block: Add bio_reset()
Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2012 16:44:00 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <504A78B0.8010105@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120907222522.GE16360-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
On 2012-09-07 16:25, Kent Overstreet wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 07, 2012 at 04:06:45PM -0600, Jens Axboe wrote:
>> On 2012-09-07 15:55, Jens Axboe wrote:
>>> On 2012-09-07 14:58, Kent Overstreet wrote:
>>>> On Thu, Sep 06, 2012 at 07:34:18PM -0600, Jens Axboe wrote:
>>>>> On 2012-09-06 16:34, Kent Overstreet wrote:
>>>>>> Reusing bios is something that's been highly frowned upon in the past,
>>>>>> but driver code keeps doing it anyways. If it's going to happen anyways,
>>>>>> we should provide a generic method.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This'll help with getting rid of bi_destructor - drivers/block/pktcdvd.c
>>>>>> was open coding it, by doing a bio_init() and resetting bi_destructor.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This required reordering struct bio, but the block layer is not yet
>>>>>> nearly fast enough for any cacheline effects to matter here.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's an odd and misplaced comment. Was just doing testing today at 5M
>>>>> IOPS, and even years back we've had cache effects for O_DIRECT in higher
>>>>> speed setups.
>>>>
>>>> Ah, I wasn't aware that you were pushing that many iops through the
>>>> block layer - most I've tested myself was around 1M. It wouldn't
>>>> surprise me if cache effects in struct bio mattered around 5M...
>>>
>>> 5M is nothing, just did 13.5M :-)
>>>
>>> But we can reshuffle for now. As mentioned, we're way overdue for a
>>> decent look at cache profiling in any case.
>>
>> No ill effects seen so far, fwiw:
>>
>> read : io=1735.8GB, bw=53690MB/s, iops=13745K, runt= 33104msec
>
> Cool!
>
> I'd be really curious to see a profile. Of the patches I've got queued
> up I don't think anything's going to significantly affect performance
> yet, but I'm hoping the cleanups/immutable bvec stuff/efficient bio
> splitting enables some performance gains.
Got more work to do, but certainly not a problem sharing.
> Well, it certainly will for stacking drivers, but I'm less sure what
> it's going to look like running on just a raw flash device.
>
> My end goal is making generic_make_request handle arbitrary sized bios,
> and have (efficient) splitting happen as required. This'll get rid of a
> bunch of code and complexity in the upper layers, in bio_add_page() and
> elsewhere. More in the stacking drivers - merge_bvec_fn is horrendous to
> support.
It is a nasty interface, in retrospect probably a mistake. As long as we
don't split ever on non-stacking drivers, I don't care too much. And it
would get rid of complexity in those drivers, so that's a nice win.
merge_bvec_fn not only a bad interface, it's also pretty slow...
> I think I might be able to efficiently get rid of the
> segments-after-merging precalculating, and just have segments merged
> once. That'd get rid of a couple fields in struct bio, and get it under
> 2 cachelines last I counted.
It's 2 cachelines now, but reducing is always a great thing. Getting rid
of the repeated recalculate after merge would be a nice win.
> Course, all this doesn't matter as much for 4k bios so it may just be a
> wash for you.
Right, for me it doesn't matter. As long as you don't slow me down :-)
--
Jens Axboe
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-09-07 22:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-09-06 22:34 [PATCH v10 0/8] Block cleanups Kent Overstreet
2012-09-06 22:34 ` [PATCH v10 1/8] block: Generalized bio pool freeing Kent Overstreet
[not found] ` <1346970902-10931-2-git-send-email-koverstreet-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-14 18:28 ` [dm-devel] " Alasdair G Kergon
[not found] ` <20120914182828.GK15728-FDJ95KluN3Z0klwcnFlA1dvLeJWuRmrY@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-17 20:51 ` Kent Overstreet
[not found] ` <20120917205139.GB14492-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-18 16:31 ` Alasdair G Kergon
2012-09-14 18:36 ` Alasdair G Kergon
2012-09-06 22:34 ` [PATCH v10 2/8] block: Ues bi_pool for bio_integrity_alloc() Kent Overstreet
2012-09-06 22:34 ` [PATCH v10 3/8] dm: Use bioset's front_pad for dm_rq_clone_bio_info Kent Overstreet
2012-09-06 22:34 ` [PATCH v10 4/8] block: Add bio_reset() Kent Overstreet
[not found] ` <1346970902-10931-5-git-send-email-koverstreet-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-07 1:34 ` Jens Axboe
2012-09-07 20:58 ` Kent Overstreet
[not found] ` <20120907205823.GD16360-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-07 21:55 ` Jens Axboe
[not found] ` <504A6D57.1030607-tSWWG44O7X1aa/9Udqfwiw@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-07 22:06 ` Jens Axboe
[not found] ` <504A6FF5.3090603-tSWWG44O7X1aa/9Udqfwiw@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-07 22:25 ` Kent Overstreet
[not found] ` <20120907222522.GE16360-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-07 22:44 ` Jens Axboe [this message]
[not found] ` <504A78B0.8010105-tSWWG44O7X1aa/9Udqfwiw@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-07 23:14 ` [dm-devel] " Alasdair G Kergon
[not found] ` <20120907231433.GE10309-FDJ95KluN3Z0klwcnFlA1dvLeJWuRmrY@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-07 23:25 ` Kent Overstreet
2012-09-06 22:34 ` [PATCH v10 5/8] pktcdvd: Switch to bio_kmalloc() Kent Overstreet
2012-09-06 22:35 ` [PATCH v10 6/8] block: Kill bi_destructor Kent Overstreet
[not found] ` <1346970902-10931-7-git-send-email-koverstreet-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-06 23:42 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-06 22:35 ` [PATCH v10 7/8] block: Consolidate bio_alloc_bioset(), bio_kmalloc() Kent Overstreet
[not found] ` <1346970902-10931-8-git-send-email-koverstreet-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-06 23:45 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-06 22:35 ` [PATCH v10 8/8] block: Add bio_clone_bioset(), bio_clone_kmalloc() Kent Overstreet
[not found] ` <1346970902-10931-9-git-send-email-koverstreet-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-06 23:46 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-14 21:50 ` [dm-devel] " Alasdair G Kergon
[not found] ` <20120914215059.GQ15728-FDJ95KluN3Z0klwcnFlA1dvLeJWuRmrY@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-17 20:42 ` Kent Overstreet
[not found] ` <20120917204227.GA14492-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-18 16:15 ` Alasdair G Kergon
[not found] ` <1346970902-10931-1-git-send-email-koverstreet-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-06 23:48 ` [PATCH v10 0/8] Block cleanups Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20120906234805.GD9426-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-07 1:37 ` Jens Axboe
2012-09-07 20:44 ` Kent Overstreet
2012-09-11 4:43 ` NeilBrown
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