From: Eric Wheeler <bcache@lists.ewheeler.net>
To: Coly Li <colyli@suse.de>
Cc: Bcache Linux <linux-bcache@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] bcache: call force_wake_up_gc() if necessary in check_should_bypass()
Date: Tue, 28 May 2024 17:16:44 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <915ded95-d5c1-7354-e3bd-2f71eabe36f9@ewheeler.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <F380E42C-9F6A-4659-A3DF-EAB97E69073F@suse.de>
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On Tue, 28 May 2024, Coly Li wrote:
> > 2024年5月28日 06:31,Eric Wheeler <bcache@lists.ewheeler.net> 写道:
> >
> > On Tue, 28 May 2024, Coly Li wrote:
> >
> >> If there are extreme heavy write I/O continuously hit on relative small
> >> cache device (512GB in my testing), it is possible to make counter
> >> c->gc_stats.in_use continue to increase and exceed CUTOFF_CACHE_ADD.
> >>
> >> If 'c->gc_stats.in_use > CUTOFF_CACHE_ADD' happens, all following write
> >> requests will bypass the cache device because check_should_bypass()
> >> returns 'true'. Because all writes bypass the cache device, counter
> >> c->sectors_to_gc has no chance to be negative value, and garbage
> >> collection thread won't be waken up even the whole cache becomes clean
> >> after writeback accomplished. The aftermath is that all write I/Os go
> >> directly into backing device even the cache device is clean.
> >>
> >> To avoid the above situation, this patch uses a quite conservative way
> >> to fix: if 'c->gc_stats.in_use > CUTOFF_CACHE_ADD' happens, only wakes
> >> up garbage collection thread when the whole cache device is clean.
> >
> > Nice fix.
> >
> > If I understand correctly, even with this fix, bcache can reach a point
> > where it must wait until garbage collection frees a bucket (via
> > force_wake_up_gc) before buckets can be used again. Waiting to call
> > force_wake_up_gc until `c->gc_stats.in_use` exceeds CUTOFF_CACHE_ADD may
> > not respond as fast as it could, and IO latency is important.
> >
>
> CUTOFF_CACHE_ADD is not for this purpose.
> GC is triggered by c->sectors_to_gc, it works as
> - initialized as 1/16 size of cache device.
> - every allocation decreases cached size from it.
> - once c->sectors_go_gc is negative value, wakeup gc thread and reset the value to 1/16 size of cache device.
>
> CUTOFF_CACHE_ADD is to avoid something like no-space deadlock in cache
> space. If cache space is allocated more than CUTOFF_CACHE_ADD (95%),
> cache space will not be allocated out anymore and all read/write will
> bypass and go directly into backing device. In my testing, after 10+
> hours I can see c->gc_stats.in_use is 96%. Which is a bit more than 95%,
> but c->sectors_go_gc is still larger than 0. This is how the
> forever-bypass happens. It has nothing to do with the latency of neither
> I/O nor gc.
Understood, thank you for the explanation!
You said that this bug exists an older version even though it is difficult
trigger. Perhaps it is a good idea to CC stable:
Cc: stable@vger.kernel.org
Also,
Reviewed-by: "Eric Wheeler" <bcache@linux.ewheeler.net>
--
Eric Wheeler
>
>
> > It may be a good idea to do `c->gc_stats.in_use > CUTOFF_CACHE_ADD/2` to
> > start garbage collection when it is half-way "full".
> >
>
> No, it is not designed to work in this way. By the above change, all I/O will bypass the cache device and go directly into backing device when cache device is occupied only 50% space.
>
>
>
> > Reaching 50% is still quite conservative, but if you want to wait longer,
> > then even 80% or 90% would be fine; however, I think 100% is too far. We
> > want to avoid the case where bcache is completely "out" of buckets and we
> > have to wait for garbage collection latency before a cache bucket can
> > fill, since buckets should be available.
> >
> > For example on our system we have 736824 buckets available:
> > # cat /sys/devices/virtual/block/dm-9/bcache/nbuckets
> > 736824
> >
> > There should be no reason to wait until all buckets are exhausted. Forcing
> > garbage collection at 50% (368412 buckets "in use") would be good house
> > keeping.
> >
> > You know this code very well so if I have misinterpreted something here,
> > then please fill me in on the details.
>
> As I said, this patch is just to avoid a forever-bypass condition, and this is an extreme condition which is rare to happen for normal workload.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Coly Li
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-05-29 0:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-05-27 17:47 [PATCH 2/3] bcache: call force_wake_up_gc() if necessary in check_should_bypass() Coly Li
2024-05-27 17:47 ` [PATCH 3/3] bcache: code cleanup in __bch_bucket_alloc_set() Coly Li
2024-05-27 22:33 ` Eric Wheeler
2024-05-28 2:18 ` Coly Li
2024-05-27 22:31 ` [PATCH 2/3] bcache: call force_wake_up_gc() if necessary in check_should_bypass() Eric Wheeler
2024-05-28 3:24 ` Coly Li
2024-05-29 0:16 ` Eric Wheeler [this message]
2024-05-29 16:23 ` Coly Li
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2024-05-28 12:09 [PATCH 0/3] bcache-6.10 20240528 Coly Li
2024-05-28 12:09 ` [PATCH 2/3] bcache: call force_wake_up_gc() if necessary in check_should_bypass() Coly Li
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