From: "Roger Pau Monné" <roger.pau@citrix.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 10/26] xen-blkfront: don't disable cache flushes when they fail
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2024 10:01:18 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZmlVziizbaboaBSn@macbook> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240611051929.513387-11-hch@lst.de>
On Tue, Jun 11, 2024 at 07:19:10AM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> blkfront always had a robust negotiation protocol for detecting a write
> cache. Stop simply disabling cache flushes when they fail as that is
> a grave error.
It's my understanding the current code attempts to cover up for the
lack of guarantees the feature itself provides:
* feature-barrier
* Values: 0/1 (boolean)
* Default Value: 0
*
* A value of "1" indicates that the backend can process requests
* containing the BLKIF_OP_WRITE_BARRIER request opcode. Requests
* of this type may still be returned at any time with the
* BLKIF_RSP_EOPNOTSUPP result code.
*
* feature-flush-cache
* Values: 0/1 (boolean)
* Default Value: 0
*
* A value of "1" indicates that the backend can process requests
* containing the BLKIF_OP_FLUSH_DISKCACHE request opcode. Requests
* of this type may still be returned at any time with the
* BLKIF_RSP_EOPNOTSUPP result code.
So even when the feature is exposed, the backend might return
EOPNOTSUPP for the flush/barrier operations.
Such failure is tied on whether the underlying blkback storage
supports REQ_OP_WRITE with REQ_PREFLUSH operation. blkback will
expose "feature-barrier" and/or "feature-flush-cache" without knowing
whether the underlying backend supports those operations, hence the
weird fallback in blkfront.
I'm unsure whether lack of REQ_PREFLUSH support is not something that
we should worry about, it seems like it was when the code was
introduced, but that's > 10y ago.
Overall blkback should ensure that REQ_PREFLUSH is supported before
exposing "feature-barrier" or "feature-flush-cache", as then the
exposed features would really match what the underlying backend
supports (rather than the commands blkback knows about).
Thanks, Roger.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-06-12 8:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-06-11 5:19 move features flags into queue_limits Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-11 5:19 ` [PATCH 01/26] sd: fix sd_is_zoned Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-11 5:46 ` Damien Le Moal
2024-06-11 8:11 ` Hannes Reinecke
2024-06-11 10:50 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2024-06-11 19:18 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-06-11 5:19 ` [PATCH 02/26] sd: move zone limits setup out of sd_read_block_characteristics Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-11 5:51 ` Damien Le Moal
2024-06-11 5:52 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-11 5:54 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-11 7:25 ` Damien Le Moal
2024-06-11 7:20 ` Damien Le Moal
2024-06-12 4:45 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-13 9:39 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-16 23:01 ` Damien Le Moal
2024-06-17 4:53 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-17 6:03 ` Damien Le Moal
2024-06-11 8:12 ` Hannes Reinecke
2024-06-11 5:19 ` [PATCH 03/26] loop: stop using loop_reconfigure_limits in __loop_clr_fd Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-11 5:53 ` Damien Le Moal
2024-06-11 5:54 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-11 8:14 ` Hannes Reinecke
2024-06-11 19:21 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-06-11 5:19 ` [PATCH 04/26] loop: always update discard settings in loop_reconfigure_limits Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-11 5:54 ` Damien Le Moal
2024-06-11 8:15 ` Hannes Reinecke
2024-06-11 19:23 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-06-11 5:19 ` [PATCH 05/26] loop: regularize upgrading the lock size for direct I/O Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-11 5:56 ` Damien Le Moal
2024-06-11 5:59 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-11 8:16 ` Hannes Reinecke
2024-06-11 19:27 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-06-11 5:19 ` [PATCH 06/26] loop: also use the default block size from an underlying block device Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-11 5:58 ` Damien Le Moal
2024-06-11 5:59 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-11 8:17 ` Hannes Reinecke
2024-06-11 19:28 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-06-11 5:19 ` [PATCH 07/26] loop: fold loop_update_rotational into loop_reconfigure_limits Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-11 6:00 ` Damien Le Moal
2024-06-11 8:18 ` Hannes Reinecke
2024-06-11 19:31 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-06-11 5:19 ` [PATCH 08/26] virtio_blk: remove virtblk_update_cache_mode Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-11 7:26 ` Damien Le Moal
2024-06-11 8:19 ` Hannes Reinecke
2024-06-11 11:49 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2024-06-11 15:43 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2024-06-11 19:32 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-06-11 5:19 ` [PATCH 09/26] nbd: move setting the cache control flags to __nbd_set_size Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-11 7:28 ` Damien Le Moal
2024-06-11 8:20 ` Hannes Reinecke
2024-06-11 16:50 ` Josef Bacik
2024-06-11 19:34 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-06-11 5:19 ` [PATCH 10/26] xen-blkfront: don't disable cache flushes when they fail Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-11 7:30 ` Damien Le Moal
2024-06-12 4:50 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-11 8:21 ` Hannes Reinecke
2024-06-12 8:01 ` Roger Pau Monné [this message]
2024-06-12 15:00 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-12 15:56 ` Roger Pau Monné
2024-06-13 14:05 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-14 7:56 ` Roger Pau Monné
2024-06-11 5:19 ` [PATCH 11/26] block: freeze the queue in queue_attr_store Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-11 7:32 ` Damien Le Moal
2024-06-11 8:22 ` Hannes Reinecke
2024-06-11 19:36 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-06-11 5:19 ` [PATCH 12/26] block: remove blk_flush_policy Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-11 7:33 ` Damien Le Moal
2024-06-11 8:23 ` Hannes Reinecke
2024-06-11 19:37 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-06-11 5:19 ` [PATCH 13/26] block: move cache control settings out of queue->flags Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-11 7:55 ` Damien Le Moal
2024-06-12 4:54 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-11 9:58 ` Hannes Reinecke
2024-06-12 4:52 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-12 14:53 ` Ulf Hansson
2024-06-11 5:19 ` [PATCH 14/26] block: move the nonrot flag to queue_limits Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-11 8:02 ` Damien Le Moal
2024-06-11 5:19 ` [PATCH 15/26] block: move the add_random " Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-11 8:06 ` Damien Le Moal
2024-06-11 5:19 ` [PATCH 16/26] block: move the io_stat flag setting " Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-11 8:09 ` Damien Le Moal
2024-06-12 4:58 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-11 5:19 ` [PATCH 17/26] block: move the stable_write flag " Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-11 8:12 ` Damien Le Moal
2024-06-11 5:19 ` [PATCH 18/26] block: move the synchronous " Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-11 8:13 ` Damien Le Moal
2024-06-11 5:19 ` [PATCH 19/26] block: move the nowait " Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-11 8:16 ` Damien Le Moal
2024-06-12 5:01 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-11 5:19 ` [PATCH 20/26] block: move the dax " Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-11 8:17 ` Damien Le Moal
2024-06-11 5:19 ` [PATCH 21/26] block: move the poll " Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-11 8:21 ` Damien Le Moal
2024-06-12 5:03 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-11 5:19 ` [PATCH 22/26] block: move the zoned flag into the feature field Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-11 8:23 ` Damien Le Moal
2024-06-11 5:19 ` [PATCH 23/26] block: move the zone_resetall flag to queue_limits Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-11 8:24 ` Damien Le Moal
2024-06-11 5:19 ` [PATCH 24/26] block: move the pci_p2pdma " Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-11 8:24 ` Damien Le Moal
2024-06-11 5:19 ` [PATCH 25/26] block: move the skip_tagset_quiesce " Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-11 8:25 ` Damien Le Moal
2024-06-11 5:19 ` [PATCH 26/26] block: move the bounce flag into the feature field Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-11 8:26 ` Damien Le Moal
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