From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from hope.aquinas.su (hope.aquinas.su [82.148.24.172]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48C232475F7; Mon, 11 Aug 2025 16:48:55 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=82.148.24.172 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1754930937; cv=none; b=r6QMKKJUdXQo5DIG6watXvqotrMOtVKRGykwwz6W0cdMMn73VXumCpJ8QxeaH67zpvGiSl0ZZd2VcHi9f+eNY5EqteecgZ5TYASbwTogSkkXcGIYXLwAfBE/fLzvyJlWl5wZbikCy6ODF7CGOQK1jsZzL5zcvYRix/RKLitHbgY= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1754930937; c=relaxed/simple; bh=LGCt325F09xhWzyUVCNeUGVbkFuJRenLZLO7XVdurNc=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=FZVNxPPT+HjP9G3+sy7zO/K6tKM2xQmwAWXAtTIsMwhzSqddhR3aEymQmcCT7cOv6KYz94tljrfoj11gz8dsxLOQuyODo/4RJ5yJIJ2q9utO7lsITYpqZ78PhPIv061v7v5uagdqDmSqjXuf58Hskl27z9xlmF+ZVD5+uaxeCsI= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=aquinas.su; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=aquinas.su; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=aquinas.su header.i=@aquinas.su header.b=GOnLP2YI; arc=none smtp.client-ip=82.148.24.172 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=aquinas.su Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=aquinas.su Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=aquinas.su header.i=@aquinas.su header.b="GOnLP2YI" Received: from woolf.localnet (host-46-241-65-133.bbcustomer.zsttk.net [46.241.65.133]) (Authenticated sender: admin@aquinas.su) by hope.aquinas.su (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 88D4E6EBB9; Mon, 11 Aug 2025 19:48:52 +0300 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=aquinas.su; s=default; t=1754930933; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=LGCt325F09xhWzyUVCNeUGVbkFuJRenLZLO7XVdurNc=; b=GOnLP2YIHOppkSHTJKhMGU/aDYfgA1iTCXY+uX5kJDRZrm77T8mQ+vRWMIdqLT0J8os3mJ e+1SNQPhO+wZ2CATcVr0BMH41YAgxjR+N93u46P4MNxazjvuubDb7jpIRmKXJyBjcZwhS0 evloaRuWGGz6r37ZSV1MlRJCBZTm+7rXwcUAct0L1EL7pqBr0OdgWVUNxKEKXPVDUGuBR3 LVCKgT2ULI/lwset+fDQs8DcLNpJA6RL0CeXPJTL6RcneEY63WirwV0FZ8s5cVTT5XzTJf 2hKX+ve1LQ18Zw3m+ePI7zHLB+7ORrrG6YLDFsJtUe4VGzeeXLdzGivLux63fQ== Authentication-Results: hope.aquinas.su; auth=pass smtp.auth=admin@aquinas.su smtp.mailfrom=admin@aquinas.su From: Aquinas Admin To: Kent Overstreet , Sasha Levin Cc: Theodore Ts'o , Josef Bacik , Malte =?UTF-8?B?U2NocsO2ZGVy?= , Linus Torvalds , "Carl E. Thompson" , linux-bcachefs@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] bcachefs changes for 6.17 Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2025 23:48:51 +0700 Message-ID: <10702976.nUPlyArG6x@woolf> In-Reply-To: References: <22ib5scviwwa7bqeln22w2xm3dlywc4yuactrddhmsntixnghr@wjmmbpxjvipv> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-bcachefs@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >=20 > The kernel has thrived for over 30 years not just because of technical > excellence, but because it has (mostly) maintained a collaborative > environment where developers can work together despite disagreements. > That collaborative environment IS doing right by users. >=20 Come on? It's been around for 30 years because it's financially beneficial = for=20 some players. Should we forget about the letters and insults that flew arou= nd=20 before 2018? The Code of Conduct wasn't introduced just like that. Well,=20 that's just a small remark, in general. The fact is, there are no objection= s=20 to the technical quality of Bcachefs. The objections are exclusively about= =20 Kent's personality and how he conducts his affairs. Maybe someone experienc= ed=20 in resolving such issues and handling personnel conflicts could suggest a=20 solution? Analyze the situation and offer methods for resolution? Especiall= y=20 since the problem is far from being solely about Kent. I suggest that inste= ad=20 of threats, hasty conclusions, and quick decisions, we turn to professional= s=20 with the right expertise, who are surely present in the Linux Foundation. I= t=20 will take time, but it will help everyone become better. I hope everyone=20 understands that the right solution shouldn't be dictated by someone's=20 feelings or grudges=E2=80=94regardless of who's involved.