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From: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
To: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>
Cc: dhowells@redhat.com, Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>, NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>,
	Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@linux.dev>,
	Donald Buczek <buczek@molgen.mpg.de>,
	linux-bcachefs@vger.kernel.org,
	Stefan Krueger <stefan.krueger@aei.mpg.de>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Josef Bacik <josef@toxicpanda.com>,
	linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: file handle in statx (was: Re: How to cope with subvolumes and snapshots on muti-user systems?)
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2023 09:46:51 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2812079.1702374411@warthog.procyon.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231212-ablauf-achtbar-ae6e5b15b057@brauner>

Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org> wrote:

> > There is a upcoming potential problem where even the 64-bit field I placed
> > in statx() may be insufficient.  The Auristor AFS server, for example, has
> > a 96-bit vnode ID, but I can't properly represent this in stx_ino.
> > Currently, I
> 
> Is that vnode ID akin to a volume? Because if so you could just
> piggy-back on a subvolume id field in statx() and expose it there.

No.  The volume ID is the ID of the volume.  The vnode is the equivalent of an
inode.

> > just truncate the value to fit and hope that the discarded part will be all
> > zero, but that's not really a good thing to do - especially when stx_ino is
> > used programmatically to check for hardlinks.
> > 
> > Would it be better to add an 'stx_ino_2' field and corresponding flag?
> 
> Would this be meaningfully different from using a file handle?

There's also the matter of presenting the "inode number" to the user - "ls -i"
for example.

David


  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-12-12  9:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-28  7:49 How to cope with subvolumes and snapshots on muti-user systems? Donald Buczek
2023-11-29 21:43 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-11-30  7:35   ` Donald Buczek
2023-11-30  7:39     ` Kent Overstreet
2023-11-30 20:37       ` NeilBrown
2023-12-04 10:47         ` Donald Buczek
2023-12-04 22:45           ` NeilBrown
2023-12-05 21:35             ` Donald Buczek
2023-12-05 22:01               ` NeilBrown
2023-12-07 11:53                 ` Donald Buczek
2023-12-08  1:16                   ` NeilBrown
2023-12-08  1:37                     ` Kent Overstreet
2023-12-08  2:13                       ` NeilBrown
2023-12-08  2:49                         ` Kent Overstreet
2023-12-08 11:34                           ` Donald Buczek
2023-12-08 20:02                             ` Kent Overstreet
2023-12-11 22:43                               ` NeilBrown
2023-12-11 23:32                                 ` file handle in statx (was: Re: How to cope with subvolumes and snapshots on muti-user systems?) Kent Overstreet
2023-12-11 23:40                                   ` David Howells
2023-12-12 20:59                                     ` Kent Overstreet
2023-12-12 22:57                                       ` NeilBrown
2023-12-12 23:43                                         ` Kent Overstreet
2023-12-13  0:02                                           ` NeilBrown
2023-12-13  0:14                                             ` Kent Overstreet
2023-12-13 22:45                                             ` Andreas Dilger
2023-12-13 23:24                                               ` Kent Overstreet
2023-12-11 23:53                                   ` NeilBrown
2023-12-12  0:05                                     ` Kent Overstreet
2023-12-12  0:59                                       ` NeilBrown
2023-12-12  1:10                                         ` Kent Overstreet
2023-12-12  2:13                                           ` NeilBrown
2023-12-12  2:24                                             ` Kent Overstreet
2023-12-12  9:08                                             ` Christian Brauner
2023-12-12  5:53                                         ` Dave Chinner
2023-12-12  6:32                                           ` Amir Goldstein
2023-12-12  8:56                                             ` Christian Brauner
2023-12-12  9:10                                               ` David Howells
2023-12-12  9:23                                                 ` Christian Brauner
2023-12-12  9:28                                                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-12-12  9:35                                                     ` Christian Brauner
2023-12-12  9:42                                                       ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-12-12 13:47                                                         ` Christian Brauner
2023-12-12 14:06                                                           ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-12-12 15:24                                                             ` Christian Brauner
2023-12-12 15:28                                                       ` Kent Overstreet
2023-12-12  9:46                                                   ` David Howells [this message]
2023-12-12 15:16                                               ` Kent Overstreet
2023-12-12 15:29                                                 ` Christian Brauner
2023-12-12 15:35                                                   ` Kent Overstreet
2023-12-12 15:38                                                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-12-12 15:43                                                       ` Kent Overstreet
2023-12-12 15:57                                                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-12-12 16:08                                                           ` Kent Overstreet
2023-12-12 16:30                                                             ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-12-12 16:41                                                               ` Kent Overstreet
2023-12-12 21:53                                                               ` NeilBrown
2023-12-13  9:41                                                             ` Christian Brauner
2023-12-12 21:46                                                       ` NeilBrown
2023-12-13  9:47                                                         ` Christian Brauner
2023-12-13 10:04                                                           ` Christian Brauner
2023-12-14 22:47                                                           ` NeilBrown
2023-12-15  0:36                                                             ` Kent Overstreet
2023-12-12  7:03                                           ` David Howells
2023-12-12  9:10                                           ` file handle in statx Donald Buczek
2023-12-12 15:20                                             ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-12-12 17:15                                               ` Frank Filz
2023-12-12 17:44                                                 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-12-12 18:17                                                   ` Amir Goldstein
2023-12-12 19:18                                                     ` Frank Filz
2023-12-12 20:59                                                 ` Dave Chinner
2023-12-12 21:57                                                   ` NeilBrown
2023-12-12 22:23                                                     ` Dave Chinner
2023-12-12 22:36                                                       ` NeilBrown
2023-12-12 22:39                                                       ` Kent Overstreet
2023-12-12 23:44                                                         ` Dave Chinner
2023-12-13  0:00                                                           ` Kent Overstreet
2023-12-13  7:37                                               ` Donald Buczek
2023-12-13 12:28                                                 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-12-13 13:48                                                   ` Donald Buczek
2023-12-19  7:41                                                     ` Donald Buczek
2023-12-12 15:21                                           ` file handle in statx (was: Re: How to cope with subvolumes and snapshots on muti-user systems?) Kent Overstreet
2023-12-12 20:48                                             ` Dave Chinner
2023-12-12 21:23                                               ` Kent Overstreet
2023-12-12 22:10                                                 ` Dave Chinner
2023-12-12 22:31                                                   ` NeilBrown
2023-12-12 23:06                                                     ` Dave Chinner
2023-12-12 23:42                                                       ` Kent Overstreet
2023-12-13  0:03                                                       ` NeilBrown
2023-12-12 22:00                                               ` NeilBrown
2023-12-12  0:25                                     ` David Howells
2023-12-13 12:43                                 ` How to cope with subvolumes and snapshots on muti-user systems? Donald Buczek
2023-11-30 20:36   ` NeilBrown

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