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From: Martin Steigerwald <martin@lichtvoll.de>
To: "Gerald B. Cox" <gbcox@bzb.us>, Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>
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Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] bcachefs changes for 6.17
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2025 12:22:30 +0200
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Hi Theodore, hi,

Theodore Ts'o - 10.08.25, 07:59:55 CEST:
> On Sat, Aug 09, 2025 at 09:26:16PM -0700, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> > And really, this whole thread feels beneath what the kernel community
> > should be. If there=E2=80=99s a serious question about bcachefs=E2=80=
=99s future, it
> > ought to be a quiet, direct conversation between Kent and Linus=E2=80=
=94not a
> > public spectacle.
>=20
> There has been private conversations with Kent.  I will note that it
> was *Kent* who started this most recent round of e-mails[1].  In his
> e-mail, He slammed the Linux Kernel's "engineering standards", and
> btrfs in particular.  I won't quote any of it here, because it really
> is quite toxic, but please note that it was Kent who started the
> discussion about btrfs.  This kind of attack is Just Not Helpful, and
> this kind of behavior is, unfortunately, quite common coming from
> Kent.
>=20
> [1]
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/3ik3h6hfm4v2y3rtpjshk5y4wlm5n366overw2lp72q
> k5izizw@k6vxp22uwnwa/

I kind of agree that this thread would have gone better without this mail=20
from Kent.

Best,
=2D-=20
Martin