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Mon, 11 Aug 2025 05:51:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <55e623db-ff03-4d33-98d1-1042106e83c6@ftml.net> Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2025 12:51:11 +0300 Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-bcachefs@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird To: kent.overstreet@linux.dev Cc: admin@aquinas.su, linux-bcachefs@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, list-bcachefs@carlthompson.net, malte.schroeder@tnxip.de, torvalds@linux-foundation.org References: <3ik3h6hfm4v2y3rtpjshk5y4wlm5n366overw2lp72qk5izizw@k6vxp22uwnwa> Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] bcachefs changes for 6.17 Content-Language: en-US From: Konstantin Shelekhin In-Reply-To: <3ik3h6hfm4v2y3rtpjshk5y4wlm5n366overw2lp72qk5izizw@k6vxp22uwnwa> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Yes, this is accurate. I've been getting entirely too many emails from Linus about > how pissed off everyone is, completely absent of details - or anything engineering > related, for that matter. That's because this is not an engineering problem, it's a communication problem. You just piss people off for no good reason. Then people get tired of dealing with you and now we're here, with Linus thinking about `git rm -rf fs/bcachesfs`. Will your users be happy? Probably not. Will your sponsors be happy? Probably not either. Then why are you keep doing this? If you really want to change the way things work go see a therapist. A competent enough doctor probably can fix all that in a couple of months.