From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mail.cock.li (mail.cock.li [37.120.193.124]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8FF5A311C28; Tue, 12 Aug 2025 07:17:16 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=37.120.193.124 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1754983044; cv=none; b=X+qzS3VuJTxdfkaY77Pzl8jr0UJ9zjFbVfSZpSGGI44Zrm1mq6IUNgEeDe7zwvLhxwAqMfYNi43PXL4YI0T/ymBtScSQ1CvYOjpAeQsMc3YM+dx2fSIrrO5j0GPOf0mf/mC9Oak8XB3e+1ZrQQ8RUZu4cAVFX7jN4mFY1ScemUY= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1754983044; c=relaxed/simple; bh=Nw5DXZD4EG15mYMBDrHw8FvaFfajl4SMYn2QjYQl9ME=; h=Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Subject:To:Cc:References:From: In-Reply-To:Content-Type; b=KGIm/pCnwswczWS5yvnLIPRnHW2taaWzgz4lE5uYW8t7J4ZAh/N/uYyNmMFL/sC4QWkg9InP1Abp8kisisDb0akLu30CIuH/TuP0LHPY8h+g7QqVhPJA43aMyhKoCmAkbM/7JP988vqAKUY9SijRY3i+Q5dSlkBKEnMKpet+Rx0= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=quarantine dis=none) header.from=cock.li; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=cock.li; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=cock.li header.i=@cock.li header.b=IYsQGkEF; arc=none smtp.client-ip=37.120.193.124 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=quarantine dis=none) header.from=cock.li Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=cock.li Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=cock.li header.i=@cock.li header.b="IYsQGkEF" Message-ID: <9e81bbfd-1688-46bd-bf38-252fed3b1c82@cock.li> DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cock.li; s=mail; t=1754983034; bh=Nw5DXZD4EG15mYMBDrHw8FvaFfajl4SMYn2QjYQl9ME=; h=Date:Subject:To:Cc:References:From:In-Reply-To:From; b=IYsQGkEFxANswCrL89YQRKOb2KF/WB6jiMguv7n7IhNDwJLQhjqRfH9ftl1DZhVCj 2Q8/sDb7QHhl/z/LxypbrU3X61l67JwvqoBpNaZf4JhqNSGDWQzfqQUIYmWnKHyz4i HPVbzkhdNMYfBh7m/rtAceCkQl95n/HsafkoviZaitA+rAvfcegFX8LVpGll7tB1lN tBsoyjzta8bFvSmGT7Ps6ODN+D44b500mYrBBZNTChPaliwGlyq4ADKByU9OcnSbVu rQ5M1HUjFdZBEVA6MV0nNRw7rGurbd/yJQaSynvdP71QJ1qQS++nZhx3idbgVG1VyE y5wMknNvVcotw== Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2025 04:17:07 -0300 Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-bcachefs@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] bcachefs changes for 6.17 To: Kent Overstreet Cc: Konstantin Shelekhin , admin@aquinas.su, linux-bcachefs@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, list-bcachefs@carlthompson.net, malte.schroeder@tnxip.de, torvalds@linux-foundation.org References: <3ik3h6hfm4v2y3rtpjshk5y4wlm5n366overw2lp72qk5izizw@k6vxp22uwnwa> <55e623db-ff03-4d33-98d1-1042106e83c6@ftml.net> Content-Language: en-US From: asdx In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 8/12/25 4:04 AM, Kent Overstreet wrote: > On Tue, Aug 12, 2025 at 03:52:39AM -0300, asdx wrote: >> On 8/11/25 11:26 AM, Kent Overstreet wrote: >>> On Mon, Aug 11, 2025 at 12:51:11PM +0300, Konstantin Shelekhin wrote: >>>>>  Yes, this is accurate. I've been getting entirely too many emails from Linus about >>>>> how pissed off everyone is, completely absent of details - or anything engineering >>>>> related, for that matter. >>>> That's because this is not an engineering problem, it's a communication problem. You just piss >>>> people off for no good reason. Then people get tired of dealing with you and now we're here, >>>> with Linus thinking about `git rm -rf fs/bcachesfs`. Will your users be happy? Probably not. >>>> Will your sponsors be happy? Probably not either. Then why are you keep doing this? >>>> >>>> If you really want to change the way things work go see a therapist. A competent enough doctor >>>> probably can fix all that in a couple of months. >>> Konstantin, please tell me what you're basing this on. >>> >>> The claims I've been hearing have simply lacked any kind of specifics; >>> if there's people I'd pissed off for no reason, I would've been happy to >>> apologize, but I'm not aware of the incidences you're claiming - not >>> within a year or more; I have made real efforts to tone things down. >>> >> You keep lying. How can you be so cynical? Just two days ago you were >> complaining on #bcache about how much control Linus has over Linux and there >> was a lot of talk about getting him removed from Linux via CoC action. > Are you the same guy who was just posting this on Phoronix? Either > you're trolling, or you misread something. > > For the record, I'm one of the more anti CoC people out there - I agree > with the spirit of their goals, not so much the approach. I would never > invoke them on anyone; I prefer to talk things out (and I don't mind > getting flamed, so long as it doesn't get in the way of the work). I read your messages well. Linus Torvalds is way more valuable than bcachefs. Please back off.