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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>
Cc: Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@linux.dev>,
	Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@acm.org>,
	"Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	linux-bcachefs@vger.kernel.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 13/14] block: Allow REQ_FUA|REQ_READ
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2025 22:40:53 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z9uqZS7QmjSvMlA5@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z9m3KSGxyt_HQ5oD@kbusch-mbp>

On Tue, Mar 18, 2025 at 12:10:49PM -0600, Keith Busch wrote:
> Maybe just change the commit log. Read FUA has legit uses for persisting
> data as described by the specs. No need to introduce contested behavior
> to justify this patch, yah?

While not having a factually incorrect commit message is a great
start I still don't think we want it.  For one there is no actual
use case for the actual semantics, so why add it?  Second it still
needs all the proper per-driver opt-in as these sematncis are not
defined for all out protocols as I've already mentioned before.

But hey, maybe Kent can actually find other storage or file system
developers to support it, so having an at least technically correct
patch out on the list would be a big start, even if I would not expect
to Jens to take it in a whim.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-03-20  5:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-11 20:15 [PATCH 00/14] better handling of checksum errors/bitrot Kent Overstreet
2025-03-11 20:15 ` [PATCH 01/14] bcachefs: Convert read path to standard error codes Kent Overstreet
2025-03-11 20:15 ` [PATCH 02/14] bcachefs: Fix BCH_ERR_data_read_csum_err_maybe_userspace in retry path Kent Overstreet
2025-03-11 20:15 ` [PATCH 03/14] bcachefs: Read error message now indicates if it was for an internal move Kent Overstreet
2025-03-11 20:15 ` [PATCH 04/14] bcachefs: BCH_ERR_data_read_buffer_too_small Kent Overstreet
2025-03-11 20:15 ` [PATCH 05/14] bcachefs: Return errors to top level bch2_rbio_retry() Kent Overstreet
2025-03-11 20:15 ` [PATCH 06/14] bcachefs: Print message on successful read retry Kent Overstreet
2025-03-11 20:15 ` [PATCH 07/14] bcachefs: Don't create bch_io_failures unless it's needed Kent Overstreet
2025-03-11 20:15 ` [PATCH 08/14] bcachefs: Checksum errors get additional retries Kent Overstreet
2025-03-11 20:15 ` [PATCH 09/14] bcachefs: __bch2_read() now takes a btree_trans Kent Overstreet
2025-03-11 20:15 ` [PATCH 10/14] bcachefs: Poison extents that can't be read due to checksum errors Kent Overstreet
2025-03-11 20:15 ` [PATCH 11/14] bcachefs: Data move can read from poisoned extents Kent Overstreet
2025-03-11 20:15 ` [PATCH 12/14] bcachefs: Debug params for data corruption injection Kent Overstreet
2025-03-11 20:15 ` [PATCH 13/14] block: Allow REQ_FUA|REQ_READ Kent Overstreet
2025-03-15 16:47   ` Jens Axboe
2025-03-15 17:01     ` Kent Overstreet
2025-03-15 17:03       ` Jens Axboe
2025-03-15 17:27         ` Kent Overstreet
2025-03-15 17:43           ` Jens Axboe
2025-03-15 18:07             ` Kent Overstreet
2025-03-15 18:32               ` Jens Axboe
2025-03-15 18:41                 ` Kent Overstreet
2025-03-17  6:00                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-17 12:15                     ` Kent Overstreet
2025-03-17 14:13                       ` Keith Busch
2025-03-17 14:49                         ` Kent Overstreet
2025-03-17 15:15                           ` Keith Busch
2025-03-17 15:22                             ` Kent Overstreet
2025-03-17 15:30                         ` Martin K. Petersen
2025-03-17 15:43                           ` Kent Overstreet
2025-03-17 17:57                             ` Martin K. Petersen
2025-03-17 18:21                               ` Kent Overstreet
2025-03-17 19:24                                 ` Keith Busch
2025-03-17 19:40                                   ` Kent Overstreet
2025-03-17 20:39                                     ` Keith Busch
2025-03-17 21:13                                       ` Bart Van Assche
2025-03-18  1:06                                         ` Kent Overstreet
2025-03-18  6:16                                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-18 17:49                                           ` Bart Van Assche
2025-03-18 18:00                                             ` Kent Overstreet
2025-03-18 18:10                                               ` Keith Busch
2025-03-18 18:13                                                 ` Kent Overstreet
2025-03-20  5:40                                                 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2025-03-20 10:28                                                   ` Kent Overstreet
2025-03-18  0:27                                       ` Kent Overstreet
2025-03-18  6:11                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-18 21:33                                   ` Kent Overstreet
2025-03-17 17:32                           ` Keith Busch
2025-03-18  6:19                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-18  6:01                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-11 20:15 ` [PATCH 14/14] bcachefs: Read retries are after checksum errors now REQ_FUA Kent Overstreet
2025-03-17 20:55 ` [PATCH 00/14] better handling of checksum errors/bitrot John Stoffel
2025-03-17 21:12   ` errors compiling bcachefs-tools v1.20.0 on debian 12 John Stoffel
2025-03-17 21:48     ` Malte Schröder
2025-03-17 23:10       ` John Stoffel
2025-03-18 21:04       ` John Stoffel
2025-03-18 21:32         ` Malte Schröder
2025-03-19 14:16           ` John Stoffel
2025-03-24 15:25             ` Krzysztof Hajdamowicz
2025-03-26 13:45               ` John Stoffel
2025-03-18  1:15   ` [PATCH 00/14] better handling of checksum errors/bitrot Kent Overstreet
2025-03-18 14:47     ` John Stoffel
2025-03-20 17:15       ` Kent Overstreet

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