From: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>
To: Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@gmail.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 01/14] dma-buf: introduce initial file I/O infrastructure
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2026 09:29:44 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <0113c49a-a364-4df6-9ab4-681c789d9d3b@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8285ede8-bebb-403a-8a37-b9987cd37a8f@gmail.com>
On 8/5/26 12:59, Pavel Begunkov wrote:
> On 8/5/26 09:27, Christian König wrote:
>>> +
>>> + dma_resv_lock(dmabuf->resv, NULL);
>>> + ctx->dev_ops->unmap(ctx, map);
>>> + dma_resv_unlock(dmabuf->resv);
>>> +
>>> + dma_fence_put(&fence->base);
>>
>> You should probably set map->fence to NULL after that.
>
> The map is freed two lines below, but I can add it as
> a defensive measure.
In that case it's ok, I've just haven't seen the kfree(map) below.
> ...
>>> + ret = dma_resv_reserve_fences(dmabuf->resv, 1);
>>> + if (WARN_ON_ONCE(ret)) {
>>> + struct dma_fence *fence = &map->fence->base;
>>> +
>>> + dma_fence_get(fence);
>>> + percpu_ref_kill(&map->refs);
>>> + dma_fence_wait(fence, false);
>>> + dma_fence_put(fence);
>>> + return;
>>> + }
>>> +
>>> + dma_resv_add_fence(dmabuf->resv, &map->fence->base,
>>> + DMA_RESV_USAGE_KERNEL);
>>
>> That sequence is clearly incorrect!
>>
>> The fence must be created after dma_resv_reserve_fences(), otherwise you definately have an illegal memory operation here.
>
> I'm not sure what you mean, can you elaborate? I only cared about
> pre-allocating it to avoid allocations here. We add / signal the fence
> only once, no reuse. The map is going to be killed here, and if we
> create a new map, it'll have its own fence.
>
> I can move the dma_fence_init() call here if that makes a difference?
Yeah that is a good start, but you might need a bit more.
Here is a summary of the usual procedure you need to follow when implementing a dma_fence backend:
1. Allocate your operation object, in this case here it's your mapping I think.
2. Prepare your operation, including all memory allocations.
3. Call dma_resv_reserve_fences() to reserve a fence slot.
4. Allocate and init your dma_fence object.
After this step no memory allocation is allowed any more until your dma_fence object signals.
The only exception is optional logging or crash dumping using GFP_NOWAIT (can fail trivially!) or minimal allocations using GFP_ATOMIC if you absolutely have to.
5. dma_resv_add_fence() to publish the fence.
6. dma_resv_unlock().
Having a dma_fence is certainly nice to have, but the tricky part is that memory allocations using GFP_KERNEL (or GFP_IO, GFP_FS etc...) can cycle back and wait for your dma_fence to signal which essentially can cause a deadlock very deeply inside memory management.
Since those deadlocks happen only on memory contention situations they are usually just hard to reproduce but still totally break your neck if you manage to mess this up. So that needs to be super carefully implemented.
Regards,
Christian.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-08-06 7:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-07-28 21:29 [PATCH v4 00/14] Add dmabuf read/write via io_uring Pavel Begunkov
2026-07-28 21:29 ` [PATCH v4 01/14] dma-buf: introduce initial file I/O infrastructure Pavel Begunkov
2026-07-29 6:59 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-07-29 10:37 ` Pavel Begunkov
2026-07-29 11:28 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-07-29 13:11 ` Pavel Begunkov
2026-08-05 8:27 ` Christian König
2026-08-05 10:59 ` Pavel Begunkov
2026-08-06 7:29 ` Christian König [this message]
2026-08-06 1:37 ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Matthew Brost
2026-07-28 21:29 ` [PATCH v4 02/14] iov_iter: add iterator type for dmabuf maps Pavel Begunkov
2026-07-29 6:59 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-07-29 10:40 ` Pavel Begunkov
2026-07-28 21:29 ` [PATCH v4 03/14] block: rename bi_bvec_done Pavel Begunkov
2026-07-29 7:00 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-07-28 21:29 ` [PATCH v4 04/14] block: always adjust bi_offset on bio_advance_iter Pavel Begunkov
2026-07-29 7:00 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-07-28 21:29 ` [PATCH v4 05/14] block: move bvec init into __bio_clone Pavel Begunkov
2026-07-29 7:00 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-07-28 21:29 ` [PATCH v4 06/14] block: introduce dma map backed bio type Pavel Begunkov
2026-07-29 7:07 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-07-29 11:03 ` Pavel Begunkov
2026-07-28 21:29 ` [PATCH v4 07/14] block: forward init_dma_buf_io_ctx to drivers Pavel Begunkov
2026-07-29 7:07 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-07-28 21:29 ` [PATCH v4 08/14] nvme-pci: implement dma_token backed requests Pavel Begunkov
2026-07-29 7:10 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-07-29 10:49 ` Pavel Begunkov
2026-07-29 19:43 ` Caleb Sander Mateos
2026-07-30 10:41 ` Pavel Begunkov
2026-07-30 11:36 ` Anuj Gupta/Anuj Gupta
2026-07-30 16:17 ` Caleb Sander Mateos
2026-07-28 21:29 ` [PATCH v4 09/14] nvme-pci: add SGL support for the dmabuf path Pavel Begunkov
2026-07-29 7:21 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-07-29 10:17 ` Anuj Gupta/Anuj Gupta
2026-07-29 11:31 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-07-29 11:45 ` Pavel Begunkov
2026-07-29 11:55 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-07-29 13:08 ` Pavel Begunkov
2026-07-28 21:29 ` [PATCH v4 10/14] io_uring/rsrc: introduce buf registration structure Pavel Begunkov
2026-07-28 21:29 ` [PATCH v4 11/14] io_uring/rsrc: extend buffer update Pavel Begunkov
2026-07-29 13:31 ` Anuj Gupta/Anuj Gupta
2026-07-29 13:39 ` Pavel Begunkov
2026-07-28 21:29 ` [PATCH v4 12/14] io_uring/rsrc: add uncloneable regbuf flag Pavel Begunkov
2026-07-28 21:29 ` [PATCH v4 13/14] io_uring/rsrc: add regbuf import flags Pavel Begunkov
2026-07-28 21:29 ` [PATCH v4 14/14] io_uring/rsrc: add dmabuf backed registered buffers Pavel Begunkov
2026-07-29 13:30 ` Anuj Gupta/Anuj Gupta
2026-07-29 13:43 ` Pavel Begunkov
2026-07-29 16:52 ` Anuj gupta
2026-07-29 17:45 ` Pavel Begunkov
2026-07-29 6:54 ` [PATCH v4 00/14] Add dmabuf read/write via io_uring Christoph Hellwig
2026-07-29 11:28 ` Pavel Begunkov
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