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From: Damien Le Moal <dlemoal@kernel.org>
To: Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@acm.org>,
	"Martin K . Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>
Cc: linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	John Garry <john.g.garry@oracle.com>,
	Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>,
	"James E.J. Bottomley" <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 6/6] scsi: core: Improve IOPS in case of host-wide tags
Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2025 08:06:20 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <074e472e-4320-4d42-b4ac-a1fa7585e2b6@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <dba8da69-1f14-48a5-a540-01e8659b7d3a@acm.org>

On 12/20/25 02:35, Bart Van Assche wrote:
> On 12/16/25 7:24 PM, Damien Le Moal wrote:
>> On 12/17/25 07:30, Bart Van Assche wrote:
>>> The SCSI core uses the budget map to restrict the number of commands
>>> that are in flight per logical unit. That limit check can be left out if
>>> host->cmd_per_lun >= host->can_queue and if the host tag set is shared
>>> across all hardware queues or if there is only one hardware queue  Since
>>
>> Missing a period at the end of the sentence (before Since). But more
>> importantly, this does not explain why the above is true, and frankly, I do not
>> see it...
> Hi Damien,
> 
> The purpose of the SCSI device budget map is to prevent that the queue
> depth limit for that SCSI device is exceeded. If there is only a single
> hardware queue or there is a host-wide tag set and host->cmd_per_lun is
> identical to host->can_queue, it is not possible that the queue depth
> for a single SCSI device is exceeded and hence the SCSI device budget
> map is not needed.

Still very confusing because as far as I understand things, a host is not
necessarily a LUN/block device (you can have several devices/LUNs on the same
host). So in general host->can_queue != device max queue depth. Also, I am not
entirely sure if host->cmd_per_lun and max queue depth of the LUN are the same
thing, given that SCSI does not define a maximum device queue depth...

> Please help with reviewing the ATA patch in this series.

For AHCI, we are dealing with single queue devices, always. For this case, I do
not think that the scsi budget is needed since we will always have scsi tag ==
ATA tag, between 0 and 31. So if you can allocate a tag, you can always submit
the command.

But for libsas HBAs, I am not sure at all if what you did is solid/works,
because I still do not understand it. Please provide more detailed explanations
in your code (comments) and commit messages to better explain what you are doing
is safe.

> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Bart.


-- 
Damien Le Moal
Western Digital Research

  reply	other threads:[~2025-12-19 23:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-16 22:30 [PATCH v4 0/6] Increase SCSI IOPS Bart Van Assche
2025-12-16 22:30 ` [PATCH v4 1/6] block: Rename busy_tag_iter_fn into blk_mq_rq_iter_fn Bart Van Assche
2025-12-16 22:30 ` [PATCH v4 2/6] block: Introduce __blk_mq_tagset_iter() Bart Van Assche
2025-12-16 22:30 ` [PATCH v4 3/6] block: Introduce blk_mq_tagset_iter() Bart Van Assche
2025-12-16 22:30 ` [PATCH v4 4/6] ata: libata: Set .needs_budget_token Bart Van Assche
2025-12-16 22:30 ` [PATCH v4 5/6] scsi: core: Generalize scsi_device_busy() Bart Van Assche
2025-12-16 22:30 ` [PATCH v4 6/6] scsi: core: Improve IOPS in case of host-wide tags Bart Van Assche
2025-12-17  3:24   ` Damien Le Moal
2025-12-19 17:35     ` Bart Van Assche
2025-12-19 23:06       ` Damien Le Moal [this message]
2025-12-20  0:05         ` Bart Van Assche
2025-12-20  0:13           ` Damien Le Moal
2025-12-20  0:28             ` Bart Van Assche

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