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From: "Ewan D. Milne" <emilne@redhat.com>
To: Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>
Cc: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, dm-devel@redhat.com,
	"linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org" <Linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [dm-devel] [LSF/MM TOPIC] block, dm: restack queue_limits
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 13:49:33 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1517338173.30292.76.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cb9f601d-4848-1255-f00b-6b3079ab8c40@suse.de>

On Tue, 2018-01-30 at 16:07 +0100, Hannes Reinecke wrote:
> On 01/29/2018 10:08 PM, Mike Snitzer wrote:
> > We currently don't restack the queue_limits if the lowest, or
> > intermediate, layer of an IO stack changes.
> > 
> > This is particularly unfortunate in the case of FLUSH/FUA which may
> > change if/when a HW controller's BBU fails; whereby requiring the device
> > advertise that it has a volatile write cache (WCE=1).
> > 
> Uh-oh. Device rescan.
> Would be a valid topic on its own...
> 
> > But in the context of DM, really it'd be best if the entire stack of
> > devices had their limits restacked if any underlying layer's limits
> > change.
> > 
> > In the past, Martin and I discussed that we should "just do it" but
> > never did.  Not sure we need a lengthy discussion but figured I'd put it
> > out there.
> > 
> > Maybe I'll find time, between now and April, to try implementing it.
> > 
> For SCSI the device capabilities are pretty much set in stone after the
> initial scan; there are hooks for rescanning, but they will only work
> half of the time.
> Plus we can't really change the device type on the fly (eg if the SCSI
> device type changes; if it moves away from '0' we would need to unbind
> the sd driver, and if it moves to '0' we'll need to rescan the sd
> device. None of this is happening right now.)
> 
> So I'd be glad to have a discussion around this.

At least array vendor has also desired the ability to change various
attributes of the device after the initial scan, such as the model name.
Not sure what would break if we did this, since who knows what userspace
software might be caching this info, but...

-Ewan

  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-30 18:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-29 21:08 [LSF/MM TOPIC] block, dm: restack queue_limits Mike Snitzer
2018-01-30 15:07 ` [dm-devel] " Hannes Reinecke
2018-01-30 18:49   ` Ewan D. Milne [this message]
2018-02-02  5:59 ` NeilBrown

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