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From: Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@acm.org>
To: Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>,
	"jianchao.wang" <jianchao.w.wang@oracle.com>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	James Smart <james.smart@broadcom.com>,
	Bart Van Assche <bart.vanassche@wdc.com>,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
	"Martin K . Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	"James E . J . Bottomley" <jejb@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] blk-mq: allow to run queue if queue refcount is held
Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2019 10:53:00 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1554227580.118779.158.camel@acm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190402110558.GA12221@ming.t460p>

On Tue, 2019-04-02 at 19:05 +0800, Ming Lei wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 02, 2019 at 04:07:04PM +0800, jianchao.wang wrote:
> > percpu_ref is born for fast path.
> > There are some drivers use it in completion path, such as scsi, does it really
> > matter for this kind of device ? If yes, I guess we should remove blk_mq_run_hw_queues
> > which is the really bulk and depend on hctx restart mechanism.
> 
> Yes, it is designed for fast path, but it doesn't mean percpu_ref
> hasn't any cost. blk_mq_run_hw_queues() is called for all blk-mq devices,
> includes the fast NVMe.

I think the overhead of adding a percpu_ref_get/put pair is acceptable for
SCSI drivers. The NVMe driver doesn't call blk_mq_run_hw_queues() directly.
Additionally, I don't think that any of the blk_mq_run_hw_queues() calls from
the block layer matter for the fast path code in the NVMe driver. In other
words, adding a percpu_ref_get/put pair in blk_mq_run_hw_queues() shouldn't
affect the performance of the NVMe driver.

> Also:
> 
> It may not be enough to just grab the percpu_ref for blk_mq_run_hw_queues
> only, given the idea is to use the percpu_ref to protect hctx's resources.
> 
> There are lots of uses on 'hctx', such as other exported blk-mq APIs.
> If this approach were chosen, we may have to audit other blk-mq APIs,
> cause they might be called after queue is frozen too.

The only blk_mq_hw_ctx user I have found so far that needs additional
protection is the q->mq_ops->poll() call in blk_poll(). However, that is not
a new issue. Functions like nvme_poll() access data structures (NVMe
completion queue) that shouldn't be accessed while blk_cleanup_queue() is in
progress. If blk_poll() is modified such that it becomes safe to call that
function while blk_cleanup_queue() is in progress then blk_poll() won't
access any hardware queue that it shouldn't access.

Bart.


  reply	other threads:[~2019-04-02 17:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-03-31  3:09 [PATCH 0/5] blk-mq: allow to run queue if queue refcount is held Ming Lei
2019-03-31  3:09 ` [PATCH 1/5] blk-mq: re-organize blk_mq_exit_hctx() into two parts Ming Lei
2019-04-01  1:40   ` Dongli Zhang
2019-04-01  2:06     ` Ming Lei
2019-03-31  3:09 ` [PATCH 2/5] blk-mq: re-organize blk_mq_exit_hw_queues() " Ming Lei
2019-03-31  3:09 ` [PATCH 3/5] blk-mq: free hw queues in queue's release handler Ming Lei
2019-03-31  3:09 ` [PATCH 4/5] block: don't drain in-progress dispatch in blk_cleanup_queue() Ming Lei
2019-04-01  1:50   ` Dongli Zhang
2019-04-01  2:08     ` Ming Lei
2019-03-31  3:09 ` [PATCH 5/5] SCSI: don't grab queue usage counter before run queue Ming Lei
2019-04-01  1:53   ` Dongli Zhang
2019-03-31 15:27 ` [PATCH 0/5] blk-mq: allow to run queue if queue refcount is held Bart Van Assche
2019-04-01  2:00   ` Ming Lei
2019-04-01  2:39     ` Bart Van Assche
2019-04-01  2:44       ` jianchao.wang
2019-04-02 18:07         ` Bart Van Assche
2019-04-01  2:52       ` Ming Lei
2019-04-01  3:25         ` jianchao.wang
2019-04-01  3:28           ` Ming Lei
2019-04-01  9:19             ` jianchao.wang
2019-04-01 10:03               ` Ming Lei
2019-04-02  2:02                 ` jianchao.wang
2019-04-02  2:55                   ` Ming Lei
2019-04-02  8:07                     ` jianchao.wang
2019-04-02 11:05                       ` Ming Lei
2019-04-02 17:53                         ` Bart Van Assche [this message]
2019-04-03  3:20                           ` Ming Lei
2019-04-03  8:29                             ` Ming Lei
2019-04-03  8:43                               ` Ming Lei
2019-04-02 18:11                     ` Bart Van Assche
2019-04-03  3:24                       ` Ming Lei
2019-04-01  5:05         ` Dongli Zhang
2019-04-01  5:16           ` Ming Lei
2019-04-01  5:30             ` Dongli Zhang
2019-04-01  7:15               ` Ming Lei
2019-04-02  2:10                 ` Dongli Zhang
2019-04-02  2:20                   ` Ming Lei
2019-04-01  3:27       ` Ming Lei
2019-04-01  3:32         ` jianchao.wang

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