From: Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@acm.org>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>,
Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
"Martin K . Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
linux-block@vger.kernel.org, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
"Ewan D . Milne" <emilne@redhat.com>,
Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] scsi: core: avoid to pre-allocate big chunk for sg list
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 08:32:31 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1556119951.161891.126.camel@acm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1556119450.3043.8.camel@HansenPartnership.com>
On Wed, 2019-04-24 at 08:24 -0700, James Bottomley wrote:
> On Wed, 2019-04-24 at 15:52 +0800, Ming Lei wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 08:37:15AM -0700, Bart Van Assche wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2019-04-23 at 18:32 +0800, Ming Lei wrote:
> > > > #define SCSI_INLINE_PROT_SG_CNT 1
> > > >
> > > > +#define SCSI_INLINE_SG_CNT 2
> > >
> > > So this patch inserts one kmalloc() and one kfree() call in the hot
> > > path for every SCSI request with more than two elements in its
> > > scatterlist? Isn't
> >
> > Slab or its variants are designed for fast path, and NVMe PCI uses
> > slab for allocating sg list in fast path too.
>
> Actually, that's not really true base kmalloc can do all sorts of
> things including kick off reclaim so it's not really something we like
> using in the fast path. The only fast and safe kmalloc you can rely on
> in the fast path is GFP_ATOMIC which will fail quickly if no memory
> can easily be found. *However* the sg_table allocation functions are
> all pool backed (lib/sg_pool.c), so they use the lightweight GFP_ATOMIC
> mechanism for kmalloc initially coupled with a backing pool in case of
> failure to ensure forward progress.
>
> So, I think you're both right: you shouldn't simply use kmalloc, but
> this implementation doesn't, it uses the sg_table allocation functions
> which correctly control kmalloc to be lightweight and efficient and
> able to make forward progress.
Another concern is whether this change can cause a livelock. If the system
is running out of memory and the page cache submits a write request with
a scatterlist with more than two elements, if the kmalloc() for the
scatterlist fails, will that prevent the page cache from making any progress
with writeback?
Bart.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-04-24 15:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-04-23 10:32 [PATCH 0/2] scis: core: avoid big pre-allocation for sg list Ming Lei
2019-04-23 10:32 ` [PATCH 1/2] scsi: core: avoid to pre-allocate big chunk for protection meta data Ming Lei
2019-04-23 15:33 ` Bart Van Assche
2019-04-24 0:46 ` Ming Lei
2019-04-23 10:32 ` [PATCH 2/2] scsi: core: avoid to pre-allocate big chunk for sg list Ming Lei
2019-04-23 15:37 ` Bart Van Assche
2019-04-24 7:52 ` Ming Lei
2019-04-24 15:24 ` James Bottomley
2019-04-24 15:32 ` Bart Van Assche [this message]
2019-04-24 15:37 ` Jens Axboe
2019-04-24 15:49 ` James Bottomley
2019-04-24 16:09 ` Bart Van Assche
2019-04-24 16:17 ` James Bottomley
2019-04-24 5:53 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-04-24 8:41 ` Ming Lei
2019-04-24 14:38 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-04-25 0:45 ` Ming Lei
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