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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	dgilbert@interlog.com, Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>,
	Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
	FUJITA Tomonori <fujita.tomonori@lab.ntt.co.jp>,
	"James E.J. Bottomley" <jejb@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com, security@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sg, bsg: mitigate read/write abuse, block uaccess in release
Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2018 07:58:40 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180708145840.GA22949@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <36a641db-fb1d-6c4c-7f1b-172f2b1cde32@kernel.dk>

On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 08:07:23AM -0600, Jens Axboe wrote:
> I'd be fine with that, if we knew that nobody uses it. But that's
> really hard to figure out. I did see Jann's source code scan, which
> even if non-exhaustive, still shows at least one user of it.

One is an example, and the other looks very close to an example,
as far as I can tell it was Nic doing a bsg read/write WIP for a
tgt module without anyone every picking up on it.  I did add the tgt
list to Cc and no one seemed to care about the bsg read/write support.
Adding the tgt list back, but I doubt anyone ever actually used it.

> How about we just make the write interface sync? Then any copy can
> happen while the we block the task, and the read side is just
> copying the header info back, or dumping it if the task didn't
> read it before it went away.

How is that going to work?  As far as I can tell each I/O using
bsg read/write needs a write and a read, so they need to pair
and thus can't be a purely sync interface.

It also doesn't help with the issue that bsg_write may possible
write to user memory, which is highly unusal and asking for security
issues itself.

Either way, we should probably at very least apply a respun version
of the patch from Jann to 4.18-rc and -stable while we keep discussing
this.

Jann, can you respin the bsg patch with the same changes as the now
included sg one?

  reply	other threads:[~2018-07-08 14:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-15 15:23 [PATCH] sg, bsg: mitigate read/write abuse, block uaccess in release Jann Horn
2018-06-15 16:40 ` Al Viro
2018-06-15 16:44   ` Jann Horn
2018-06-15 16:53     ` Al Viro
2018-06-15 17:10       ` Al Viro
2018-06-15 17:13         ` Jann Horn
2018-06-15 20:47   ` Douglas Gilbert
2018-06-18 15:26     ` Benjamin Block
2018-06-18 15:37     ` Jens Axboe
2018-06-18 16:16       ` Al Viro
2018-06-18 16:23         ` Jens Axboe
2018-06-21 12:34       ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-06-21 12:51         ` Jann Horn
2018-06-21 13:03           ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-06-21 14:07         ` Jens Axboe
2018-07-08 14:58           ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2018-07-10 20:53             ` Jann Horn
2018-07-11  6:33               ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-06-15 16:49 ` Al Viro
2018-06-15 16:58   ` Jann Horn
2018-06-15 17:02     ` Jann Horn
2018-06-21 12:40 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-06-21 12:54   ` Jann Horn

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