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From: Thadeu Lima de Souza Cascardo <cascardo@canonical.com>
To: Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@fb.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] block: expose devt for GENHD_FL_HIDDEN disks
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2018 09:09:34 -0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181214110933.GF5321@calabresa> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aa38e54b-9506-96e9-7e55-29bcccd36334@suse.de>

On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 10:54:04AM +0100, Hannes Reinecke wrote:
> On 12/14/18 10:06 AM, Thadeu Lima de Souza Cascardo wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 06:56:06AM -0200, Thadeu Lima de Souza Cascardo wrote:
> > > On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 08:47:20AM +0100, Hannes Reinecke wrote:
> > > > But you haven't answered my question:
> > > > 
> > > > Why can't we patch 'lsblk' to provide the required information even with the
> > > > current sysfs layout?
> > > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > Just to be clear here. If with 'current sysfs layout' you mean without any of
> > the patches we have been talking about, lsblk is not broken. It just works with
> > nvme multipath enabled. It will show the multipath paths and simply ignore the
> > underlying/hidden ones. If we hid them, we meant for them to be hidden, right?
> > 
> > What I am trying to fix here is how to find out which PCI device/driver is
> > needed to get to the block device holding the root filesystem, which is what
> > initramfs needs. And the nvme multipath device is a virtual device, pointing to
> > no driver at all, and no relation to its underlying devices, needed for it to
> > work.
> > 
> 
> Well ...
> But this is an entirely different proposition.
> The 'slaves'/'holders' trick just allows to map the relationship between
> _block_ devices, which arguably is a bit pointless here seeing that we don't
> actually have block devices for the underlying devices.
> But even if we _were_ implementing that you would still fail to get to the
> PCI device providing the block devices as there is no link pointing from one
> to another.

Well, initramfs-tools does traverse the slaves because your root filesystem
could be on top of a device-mapped block device. I will try your other patch in
any case and I will see if that fixes the problem I have at hand.

Thanks.
Cascardo.

> 
> With the currently layout we have this hierarchy:
> 
> NVMe namespace (/dev/nvmeXn1Y) -> NVMe-subsys -> NVMe controller
> 
> and the NVMe controller is missing a link pointing to the device presenting
> the controller:
> 
> # ls -l /sys/devices/virtual/nvme-fabrics/ctl/nvme2
> total 0
> -r--r--r-- 1 root root 4096 Dec 13 13:18 address
> -r--r--r-- 1 root root 4096 Dec 13 13:18 cntlid
> --w------- 1 root root 4096 Dec 13 13:18 delete_controller
> -r--r--r-- 1 root root 4096 Dec 13 13:18 dev
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root    0 Dec 13 13:18 device -> ../../ctl
> -r--r--r-- 1 root root 4096 Dec 13 13:18 firmware_rev
> -r--r--r-- 1 root root 4096 Dec 13 13:18 model
> drwxr-xr-x 9 root root    0 Dec  3 13:55 nvme2c64n1
> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root    0 Dec 13 13:18 power
> --w------- 1 root root 4096 Dec 13 13:18 rescan_controller
> --w------- 1 root root 4096 Dec 13 13:18 reset_controller
> -r--r--r-- 1 root root 4096 Dec 13 13:18 serial
> -r--r--r-- 1 root root 4096 Dec 13 13:18 state
> -r--r--r-- 1 root root 4096 Dec 13 13:18 subsysnqn
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root    0 Dec  3 13:44 subsystem ->
> ../../../../../class/nvme
> -r--r--r-- 1 root root 4096 Dec 13 13:18 transport
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4096 Dec 13 13:18 uevent
> 
> So what we need to do is to update the 'device' link to point to the PCI
> device providing the controller.
> (Actually, we would need to point the 'device' link to point to the entity
> providing the transport address, but I guess we don't have that for now.)
> 
> And _that's_ what we need to fix; the slaves/holders stuff doesn't solve the
> underlying problem, and really shouldn't be merged at all.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Hannes
> -- 
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-12-14 11:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-12-06 16:48 [PATCH 0/4] nvme multipath: expose slaves/holders Thadeu Lima de Souza Cascardo
2018-12-06 16:48 ` [PATCH 1/4] block: move holder tracking from struct block_device to hd_struct Thadeu Lima de Souza Cascardo
2018-12-13  9:14   ` Hannes Reinecke
2018-12-06 16:48 ` [PATCH 2/4] nvme: create slaves/holder entries for multipath devices Thadeu Lima de Souza Cascardo
2018-12-13  9:15   ` Hannes Reinecke
2018-12-06 16:48 ` [PATCH 3/4] nvme: Should not warn when a disk path is opened Thadeu Lima de Souza Cascardo
2018-12-13  9:16   ` Hannes Reinecke
2018-12-06 16:48 ` [PATCH 4/4] block: expose devt for GENHD_FL_HIDDEN disks Thadeu Lima de Souza Cascardo
2018-12-06 20:22   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-12-12  8:32     ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-12-12 12:39     ` Thadeu Lima de Souza Cascardo
2018-12-13  9:18   ` Hannes Reinecke
2018-12-13 11:41     ` Thadeu Lima de Souza Cascardo
2018-12-13 12:19       ` Hannes Reinecke
2018-12-13 16:08         ` Thadeu Lima de Souza Cascardo
2018-12-13 14:32     ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-12-13 15:25       ` Thadeu Lima de Souza Cascardo
2018-12-13 20:20         ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-12-13 21:00           ` Thadeu Lima de Souza Cascardo
2018-12-14  7:47         ` Hannes Reinecke
2018-12-14  8:56           ` Thadeu Lima de Souza Cascardo
2018-12-14  9:06             ` Thadeu Lima de Souza Cascardo
2018-12-14  9:54               ` Hannes Reinecke
2018-12-14 10:18                 ` Hannes Reinecke
2018-12-14 11:09                 ` Thadeu Lima de Souza Cascardo [this message]
2018-12-14  9:44             ` Hannes Reinecke
2018-12-13  9:33 ` [PATCH 0/4] nvme multipath: expose slaves/holders Johannes Thumshirn
2018-12-13 11:35   ` Thadeu Lima de Souza Cascardo

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