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From: Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@acm.org>
To: Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>
Cc: Mohamed Khalfella <mkhalfella@purestorage.com>,
	Chaitanya Kulkarni <kch@nvidia.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	Sagi Grimberg <sagi@grimberg.me>,
	Casey Chen <cachen@purestorage.com>,
	Yuanyuan Zhong <yzhong@purestorage.com>,
	Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>, Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>,
	Waiman Long <llong@redhat.com>, Hillf Danton <hdanton@sina.com>,
	linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] block: Use RCU in blk_mq_[un]quiesce_tagset() instead of set->tag_list_lock
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2025 13:22:49 -1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201a7e9e-4782-4f71-a73b-9d58a51ee8ec@acm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aTH8opTiwJxH2PMA@kbusch-mbp>


On 12/4/25 11:26 AM, Keith Busch wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 04, 2025 at 10:24:03AM -1000, Bart Van Assche wrote:>> Hence, the deadlock can be
>> solved by removing the blk_mq_quiesce_tagset() call from nvme_timeout()
>> and by failing I/O from inside nvme_timeout(). If nvme_timeout() fails
>> I/O and does not call blk_mq_quiesce_tagset() then the
>> blk_mq_freeze_queue_wait() call will finish instead of triggering a
>> deadlock. However, I do not know whether this proposal seems acceptable
>> to the NVMe maintainers.
> 
> You periodically make this suggestion, but there's never a reason
> offered to introduce yet another work queue for the driver to
> synchronize with at various points. The whole point of making blk-mq
> timeout handler in a work queue (it used to be a timer) was so that we
> could do blocking actions like this.
Hi Keith,

The blk_mq_quiesce_tagset() call from the NVMe timeout handler is
unfortunate because it triggers a deadlock with
blk_mq_update_tag_set_shared().

I proposed to modify the NVMe driver because I think that's a better
approach than introducing a new synchronize_rcu() call in the block
layer core.

However, there may be better approaches for fixing this in the NVMe
driver than what I proposed so far.

Thanks,

Bart.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-12-04 23:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-04 18:11 [PATCH 0/1] Use RCU in blk_mq_[un]quiesce_tagset() instead of set->tag_list_lock Mohamed Khalfella
2025-12-04 18:11 ` [PATCH 1/1] block: " Mohamed Khalfella
2025-12-04 18:22   ` Bart Van Assche
2025-12-04 18:42     ` Mohamed Khalfella
2025-12-04 19:06       ` Bart Van Assche
2025-12-04 19:15         ` Mohamed Khalfella
2025-12-04 19:31           ` Bart Van Assche
2025-12-04 19:57             ` Mohamed Khalfella
2025-12-04 20:24               ` Bart Van Assche
2025-12-04 21:26                 ` Keith Busch
2025-12-04 23:22                   ` Bart Van Assche [this message]
2025-12-05  1:32                     ` Keith Busch
2025-12-05  2:52                       ` Bart Van Assche
2025-12-05 16:39                       ` Mohamed Khalfella
2025-12-05 18:11                         ` Keith Busch
2025-12-08 19:22                       ` Bart Van Assche
2025-12-04 19:02   ` Mohamed Khalfella

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