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From: Daniel Wagner <dwagner@suse.de>
To: Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	Long Li <longli@microsoft.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Keith Busch <keith.busch@intel.com>,
	Sagi Grimberg <sagi@grimberg.me>,
	John Garry <john.garry@huawei.com>,
	Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/3] softirq: implement interrupt flood detection
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2020 11:28:07 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200102102807.dc7yf6choxre2lbg@beryllium.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191231034806.GB20062@ming.t460p>

Hi,

On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 11:48:06AM +0800, Ming Lei wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 11:43:47AM +0100, Daniel Wagner wrote:
> get_util_irq() only works in case of HAVE_SCHED_AVG_IRQ which depends
> on IRQ_TIME_ACCOUNTING or PARAVIRT_TIME_ACCOUNTING.
> 
> Also rq->avg_irq.util_avg is only updated when there is scheduler
> activities. However, when interrupt flood happens, scheduler can't
> have chance to be called. Looks get_util_irq() can't be relied on
> for this task.

I am not totally sold on the idea to do so as much work as possible in
the IRQ context. I started to play with the patches from Keith [1] which
move the work to proper kernel thread.

> > ps: A customer observes the same problem as Ming is reporting.
> 
> Actually this issue should be more serious on ARM64 system, in which
> there are more CPU cores, and each CPU core is often slower than
> x86's, and each interrupt is only delivered to single CPU target.
> 
> Meantime the storage device performance is same for the two kinds of
> systems.

As it turnes out, we missed one fix 2887e41b910b ("blk-wbt: Avoid lock
contention and thundering herd issue in wbt_wait") in our enterprise
kernel which helps but doesn't solve the real cause. But as I said
moving the work out of the IRQ context will address all those
problems. Obvious there is no free lunch, let's see if we find a way
to address all the performance issues.

Thanks,
Daniel

[1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-nvme/20191209175622.1964-1-kbusch@kernel.org/

  reply	other threads:[~2020-01-02 10:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-12-18  7:19 [RFC PATCH 0/3] softirq/blk-mq: implement interrupt flood detection for avoiding cpu lockup Ming Lei
2019-12-18  7:19 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] sched/core: add API for exporting runqueue clock Ming Lei
2019-12-18  9:51   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-12-19  1:29     ` Ming Lei
2019-12-19  9:20       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-12-18  7:19 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] softirq: implement interrupt flood detection Ming Lei
2019-12-18 10:49   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-12-18 12:29     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-12-19  1:59     ` Ming Lei
2019-12-19  9:23       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-12-19  9:52         ` Ming Lei
2019-12-19 10:43         ` Daniel Wagner
2019-12-31  3:48           ` Ming Lei
2020-01-02 10:28             ` Daniel Wagner [this message]
2019-12-18  7:19 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] blk-mq: complete request in rescuer process context in case of irq flood Ming Lei

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