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From: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>
To: Kirill Tkhai <ktkhai@virtuozzo.com>
Cc: linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	martin.petersen@oracle.com, bob.liu@oracle.com, axboe@kernel.dk,
	agk@redhat.com, dm-devel@redhat.com, song@kernel.org,
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	minwoo.im.dev@gmail.com, damien.lemoal@wdc.com,
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	ajay.joshi@wdc.com, sagi@grimberg.me, dsterba@suse.com,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 6/7] dm: Directly disable max_allocate_sectors for now
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 09:43:10 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200121144310.GA10055@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a19d5957-9aaa-b518-5855-e5fa2b5d3b22@virtuozzo.com>

On Tue, Jan 21 2020 at  9:20am -0500,
Kirill Tkhai <ktkhai@virtuozzo.com> wrote:

> On 21.01.2020 16:48, Mike Snitzer wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 21 2020 at  8:33am -0500,
> > Kirill Tkhai <ktkhai@virtuozzo.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> On 21.01.2020 15:36, Kirill Tkhai wrote:
> >>> On 21.01.2020 15:24, Mike Snitzer wrote:
> >>>> On Tue, Jan 21 2020 at  5:42am -0500,
> >>>> Kirill Tkhai <ktkhai@virtuozzo.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Since dm inherits limits from underlining block devices,
> >>>>> this patch directly disables max_allocate_sectors for dm
> >>>>> till full allocation support is implemented.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This prevents high-level primitives (generic_make_request_checks(),
> >>>>> __blkdev_issue_write_zeroes(), ...) from sending REQ_ALLOCATE
> >>>>> requests.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Signed-off-by: Kirill Tkhai <ktkhai@virtuozzo.com>
> >>>>> ---
> >>>>>  drivers/md/dm-table.c |    2 ++
> >>>>>  drivers/md/md.h       |    1 +
> >>>>>  2 files changed, 3 insertions(+)
> >>>>
> >>>> You're mixing DM and MD changes in the same patch.
> >>>>
> >>>> But I'm wondering if it might be best to set this default for stacking
> >>>> devices in blk_set_stacking_limits()?
> >>>>
> >>>> And then it is up to each stacking driver to override as needed.
> >>>
> >>> Hm. Sound like a good idea. This "lim->max_allocate_sectors = 0" in blk_set_stacking_limits()
> >>> should work for dm's dm_calculate_queue_limits(), since it calls blk_stack_limits(), which is:
> >>>
> >>> 	t->max_allocate_sectors = min(t->max_allocate_sectors,
> >>> 				      b->max_allocate_sectors);
> >>>
> >>> Could you please tell is this fix is also enough for md?
> >>
> >> It looks like it's enough since queue defaults are set in md_alloc()->blk_set_stacking_limits().
> >> In case of we set "max_allocate_sectors = 0", in further it can be changed only manually,
> >> but nobody does this.
> > 
> > Yes, it will work to disable this capability for MD and DM.
> > 
> > But if/when a stacked device _dooes_ want to support this then it'll be
> > awkward to override this stacking default to allow blk_stack_limits()
> > to properly stack up this limit.  blk_limits are extremely fiddley so
> > this isn't necessarily new.  But by explicitly defaulting to 0 and then
> > having blk_stack_limits use min() for this limit: it results in stacking
> > drivers needing to clumsily unwind the default.  E.g. DM will need to
> > tweak its blk_stack_limits() related code to allow override that
> > actually _does_  stack up the underlying devices' capability (and not
> > just impose its own limit that ignores the underlying devices).
> > 
> > So I'm not convinced this is the right way to go (be it the v4 approach
> > you took or the cleaner use of blk_set_stacking_limits I suggested).
> 
> Is there a strong vision about the way we should go? Or you leave this choose
> up to me?

I don't have time to work through it at the moment (e.g. implementing
dm-thinp support to know what the block core code should be) so I'll
just defer to you on a disabling it for now.

> > And to be clear, I'm interested in having DM thinp support this
> > capability to preallocate blocks.
> 
> My opinion is it would be better to not mix several subsystem related
> support in a single patch set. Both of the approaches (v4 or that you
> suggested) do not prevents us to implement allocation support in next
> patch series. After we have the base functionality enabled, we may add
> support in other subsystems and drivers one by one with more focus
> on the subsystem specificities and with the best possible attention.

Yeah, I'm aware nothing is ever set in stone.

Setting to 0 in blk_set_stacking_limits() is OK for now.

Thanks,
Mike


  reply	other threads:[~2020-01-21 14:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-01-21 10:42 [PATCH v4 0/7] block: Introduce REQ_ALLOCATE flag for REQ_OP_WRITE_ZEROES Kirill Tkhai
2020-01-21 10:42 ` [PATCH v4 1/7] block: Add @flags argument to bdev_write_zeroes_sectors() Kirill Tkhai
2020-01-21 10:42 ` [PATCH v4 2/7] block: Pass op_flags into blk_queue_get_max_sectors() Kirill Tkhai
2020-01-21 10:42 ` [PATCH v4 3/7] block: Introduce blk_queue_get_max_write_zeroes_sectors() Kirill Tkhai
2020-01-21 10:42 ` [PATCH v4 4/7] block: Add support for REQ_ALLOCATE flag Kirill Tkhai
2020-01-21 10:42 ` [PATCH v4 5/7] block: Add blk_queue_max_allocate_sectors() Kirill Tkhai
2020-01-21 10:42 ` [PATCH v4 6/7] dm: Directly disable max_allocate_sectors for now Kirill Tkhai
2020-01-21 12:24   ` Mike Snitzer
2020-01-21 12:36     ` Kirill Tkhai
2020-01-21 13:33       ` Kirill Tkhai
2020-01-21 13:48         ` Mike Snitzer
2020-01-21 14:20           ` Kirill Tkhai
2020-01-21 14:43             ` Mike Snitzer [this message]
2020-01-21 15:13               ` Kirill Tkhai
2020-01-21 10:42 ` [PATCH v4 7/7] loop: Add support for REQ_ALLOCATE Kirill Tkhai

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