From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
Steven Whitehouse <swhiteho@redhat.com>,
Steve French <stfrench@microsoft.com>,
Samuel Cabrero <scabrero@suse.de>,
David Teigland <teigland@redhat.com>,
Namjae Jeon <namjae.jeon@samsung.com>,
Josef Bacik <josef@toxicpanda.com>
Subject: Re: [LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC] are we going to use ioctls forever?
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2022 13:25:55 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220203122555.cqnvnbur43zrfqfa@quack3.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YfiXkk9HJpatFxnd@casper.infradead.org>
On Tue 01-02-22 02:14:42, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 05:33:29PM -0800, Luis Chamberlain wrote:
> > Possible issues? Kernels without CONFIG_NET. Is that a deal breaker?
> > We already have a few filesystems with their own generic netlink
> > families, so not sure if this is a good argument against this.
> >
> > mcgrof@fulton ~/linux-next (git::master)$ git grep genl_register_family fs
> > fs/cifs/netlink.c: ret = genl_register_family(&cifs_genl_family);
> > fs/dlm/netlink.c: return genl_register_family(&family);
> > fs/ksmbd/transport_ipc.c: ret = genl_register_family(&ksmbd_genl_family);
> > fs/quota/netlink.c: if (genl_register_family("a_genl_family) != 0)
>
> I'm not sure these are good arguments in favour ... other than quota,
> these are all network filesystems, which aren't much use without
> CONFIG_NET.
>
> > mcgrof@fulton ~/linux-next (git::master)$ git grep genl_register_family drivers/block
> > drivers/block/nbd.c: if (genl_register_family(&nbd_genl_family)) {
>
> The, er, _network_ block device, right?
Yep, and even for the quota what you'll lose with the netlink family are
the fancy out-of-band notifications about users going over their quotas.
Not a big loss. So I don't by this argument.
OTOH these days when even a lightbulb is connected to a network, I don't
personally think CONFIG_NET dependency is a real problem...
Honza
--
Jan Kara <jack@suse.com>
SUSE Labs, CR
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-02-03 12:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-02-01 1:33 [LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC] are we going to use ioctls forever? Luis Chamberlain
2022-02-01 2:14 ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-02-03 12:25 ` Jan Kara [this message]
2022-02-28 21:46 ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-03-01 7:47 ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-03-01 16:23 ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-02-01 12:56 ` James Bottomley
2022-02-28 22:00 ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-02-01 13:20 ` Christian Brauner
2022-02-28 22:02 ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-02-02 10:39 ` Steven Whitehouse
2022-02-28 22:13 ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-02-02 20:36 ` Bart Van Assche
2022-02-28 22:07 ` Luis Chamberlain
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