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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Max Gurtovoy <mgurtovoy@nvidia.com>
Cc: Suwan Kim <suwan.kim027@gmail.com>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	jasowang@redhat.com, pbonzini@redhat.com,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] virtio-blk: support polling I/O
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2022 18:22:19 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220314182148-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <332c35ec-734b-d2bd-dd0f-c577b1c6174b@nvidia.com>

On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 06:33:06PM +0200, Max Gurtovoy wrote:
> 
> On 3/14/2022 5:15 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 03:26:13PM +0200, Max Gurtovoy wrote:
> > > On 3/14/2022 1:15 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 12:25:08PM +0200, Max Gurtovoy wrote:
> > > > > On 3/14/2022 11:43 AM, Suwan Kim wrote:
> > > > > > On Sun, Mar 13, 2022 at 12:37:21PM +0200, Max Gurtovoy wrote:
> > > > > > > On 3/11/2022 6:07 PM, Suwan Kim wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 10:38:07AM -0500, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Sat, Mar 12, 2022 at 12:28:32AM +0900, Suwan Kim wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > diff --git a/include/uapi/linux/virtio_blk.h b/include/uapi/linux/virtio_blk.h
> > > > > > > > > > index d888f013d9ff..3fcaf937afe1 100644
> > > > > > > > > > --- a/include/uapi/linux/virtio_blk.h
> > > > > > > > > > +++ b/include/uapi/linux/virtio_blk.h
> > > > > > > > > > @@ -119,8 +119,9 @@ struct virtio_blk_config {
> > > > > > > > > >      	 * deallocation of one or more of the sectors.
> > > > > > > > > >      	 */
> > > > > > > > > >      	__u8 write_zeroes_may_unmap;
> > > > > > > > > > +	__u8 unused1;
> > > > > > > > > > -	__u8 unused1[3];
> > > > > > > > > > +	__virtio16 num_poll_queues;
> > > > > > > > > >      } __attribute__((packed));
> > > > > > > > > Same as any virtio UAPI change, this has to go through the virtio TC.
> > > > > > > > > In particular I don't think gating a new config field on
> > > > > > > > > an existing feature flag is a good idea.
> > > > > > > > Did you mean that the polling should be based on a new feature like
> > > > > > > > "VIRTIO_BLK_F_POLL" and be added at the end of features_legacy[]
> > > > > > > > and features[]? If then, I will add the new feture flag and resend it.
> > > > > > > Isn't there a way in the SPEC today to create a queue without interrupt
> > > > > > > vector ?
> > > > > > It seems that it is not possible to create a queue without interrupt
> > > > > > vector. If it is possible, we can expect more polling improvement.
> > > > Yes, it's possible:
> > > > 
> > > > Writing a valid MSI-X Table entry number, 0 to 0x7FF, to
> > > > \field{config_msix_vector}/\field{queue_msix_vector} maps interrupts triggered
> > > > by the configuration change/selected queue events respectively to
> > > > the corresponding MSI-X vector. To disable interrupts for an
> > > > event type, the driver unmaps this event by writing a special NO_VECTOR
> > > > value:
> > > > 
> > > > \begin{lstlisting}
> > > > /* Vector value used to disable MSI for queue */
> > > > #define VIRTIO_MSI_NO_VECTOR            0xffff
> > > > \end{lstlisting}
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > MST/Jason/Stefan,
> > > > > 
> > > > > can you confirm that please ?
> > > > > 
> > > > > what does VIRTQ_AVAIL_F_NO_INTERRUPT supposed to do ?
> > > > This is a hint to the device not to send interrupts.
> > > Why do you need a hint if the driver implicitly wrote 0xffff to disable MSI
> > > for a virtqueue ?
> > 
> > VIRTIO_MSI_NO_VECTOR is an expensive write into config space, followed
> > by an even more expensive read. Reliable and appropriate if you turn
> > events on/off very rarely.
> > 
> > VIRTQ_AVAIL_F_NO_INTERRUPT is an in-memory write so it's much cheaper,
> > but it's less reliable. Appropriate if you need to turn events on/off a
> > lot.
> 
> An "expensive" operation in the ctrl path during vq creation is fine IMO.

Yes.

> I see that nobody even used VIRTQ_AVAIL_F_NO_INTERRUPT in-memory write in
> Linux.

Because it's called VRING_AVAIL_F_NO_INTERRUPT there.

> > 
> > 
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > Suwan Kim


  reply	other threads:[~2022-03-14 22:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-11 15:28 [PATCH] virtio-blk: support polling I/O Suwan Kim
2022-03-11 15:38 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-03-11 16:07   ` Suwan Kim
2022-03-11 16:18     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-03-11 16:38       ` Suwan Kim
2022-03-13 10:37     ` Max Gurtovoy
2022-03-14  9:43       ` Suwan Kim
2022-03-14 10:25         ` Max Gurtovoy
2022-03-14 11:15           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-03-14 13:22             ` Suwan Kim
2022-03-14 15:12               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-03-14 13:26             ` Max Gurtovoy
2022-03-14 15:15               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-03-14 16:33                 ` Max Gurtovoy
2022-03-14 22:22                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2022-03-13 10:42 ` Max Gurtovoy
2022-03-14  9:55   ` Suwan Kim
2022-03-14 10:32     ` Max Gurtovoy
2022-03-14  6:14 ` Jason Wang
2022-03-14 12:33   ` Suwan Kim
2022-03-14 14:48     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
     [not found]     ` <CACGkMEujXYNE-88=m9ohjbeAj2F7CqEUes8gOUmasTNtwn2bUA@mail.gmail.com>
2022-03-15 14:43       ` Suwan Kim
2022-03-15 14:53         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-03-16  2:02         ` Jason Wang
2022-03-16 11:25           ` Max Gurtovoy
2022-03-16 13:32           ` Suwan Kim
2022-03-16 15:32           ` Suwan Kim
2022-03-16 15:36             ` Max Gurtovoy
2022-03-16 16:00               ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-03-17  2:20             ` Jason Wang
2022-03-17 15:03               ` Suwan Kim
2022-03-14 15:19 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-03-15 13:55   ` Suwan Kim
2022-03-16 12:20     ` Stefan Hajnoczi

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