From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8244C4332F for ; Sat, 24 Dec 2022 13:34:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S229688AbiLXNee (ORCPT ); Sat, 24 Dec 2022 08:34:34 -0500 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:53062 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229503AbiLXNec (ORCPT ); Sat, 24 Dec 2022 08:34:32 -0500 Received: from ams.source.kernel.org (ams.source.kernel.org [IPv6:2604:1380:4601:e00::1]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 259CCDF8E; Sat, 24 Dec 2022 05:34:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.kernel.org (relay.kernel.org [52.25.139.140]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ams.source.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C33DBB8213E; Sat, 24 Dec 2022 13:34:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2F5EFC433EF; Sat, 24 Dec 2022 13:34:29 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1671888869; bh=aDgytOpQqUONDbhmxvUr660jBiqpbJZQ2ZyExwDCdSo=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=W0lb0dkD5iwNh97uBbfLpcjSWVWGVGkKUytZ89YCNOIBJczW40zyqLc+ByZm7iN63 qddFAD2mQSW9J6ssBHZUowJlH9XkixuuDf2Ts7Cg1WFi0w1OEqCdMvFwSV/skIgVVc DRnaSE8QEY5E7z+JUj28ZCIcZOhu4dROx5kMsD9dX7YrEUVEY2U9hhD0R+Ccsmoagl 5EpYUmCbR7RCMu3cPU8z1pc4pNpRKmgujjR3jNSfJdOnrvs9pSWAJDvwg5pTI4h9so GfOkryEBNqYMxE3qd6FvkFF/MDCcj9EoxSQiHLI3e34hBFxlCtWHB11ESLTqmtkabc R88+ThuYV7c/w== Received: by pali.im (Postfix) id 12E3D720; Sat, 24 Dec 2022 14:34:26 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2022 14:34:25 +0100 From: Pali =?utf-8?B?Um9ow6Fy?= To: Greg Kroah-Hartman Cc: Jens Axboe , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Christoph Hellwig , Thomas Maier , linux-block@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] pktcdvd: remove driver. Message-ID: <20221224133425.vlcxbaaynihiom4a@pali> References: <20221202182758.1339039-1-gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> <20221224095353.w32xhmyzlft6qi4v@pali> <20221224101139.sgvhr2n3pbrs4agm@pali> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: NeoMutt/20180716 Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-block@vger.kernel.org On Saturday 24 December 2022 13:24:39 Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote: > On Sat, Dec 24, 2022 at 11:11:39AM +0100, Pali Rohár wrote: > > On Saturday 24 December 2022 11:03:27 Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote: > > > On Sat, Dec 24, 2022 at 10:53:53AM +0100, Pali Rohár wrote: > > > > On Friday 02 December 2022 19:27:58 Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote: > > > > > Way back in 2016 in commit 5a8b187c61e9 ("pktcdvd: mark as unmaintained > > > > > and deprecated") this driver was marked as "will be removed soon". 5 > > > > > years seems long enough to have it stick around after that, so finally > > > > > remove the thing now. > > > > > > > > Why to remove? This driver is still widely used, userspace in active > > > > maintenance and in last two years userspace software received more fixes > > > > for CD-RW support and pktcdvd. > > > > > > It was marked as "please remove" back in 2016, why wasn't that changed > > > if people were actually using this? > > > > And how should I know it if I was informed about it just today? > > Using the "Why was I not informed?" defense isn't usually the best way > to discuss things when we have 800+ maintainers and 4000+ developers > here :) And asking question back is not the best way too. > > > > Just now community person informed me that somebody is going to remove > > > > kernel support. > > > > > > Isn't there better ways to support the hardware needed than this driver? > > > > Is there any other driver in kernel which provide block layer for it? > > I do not know about any other. > > What about the venerable sg.c driver (enabled with CONFIG_CHR_DEV_SG)? > Does that not work properly for your specific hardware? No, it is not a mountable rw block device suitable for CD-RW and DVD-RW. > Anyway, have a nice holiday! > > greg k-h