From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: Lennart Poettering <mzxreary@0pointer.de>
Cc: Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>,
Linux regressions mailing list <regressions@lists.linux.dev>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
linux-block@vger.kernel.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
Subject: Re: API break, sysfs "capability" file
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2024 16:15:31 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240409141531.GB21514@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZhT5_fZ9SrM0053p@gardel-login>
On Tue, Apr 09, 2024 at 10:19:09AM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> All I am looking for is a very simple test that returns me a boolean:
> is there kernel-level partition scanning enabled on this device or
> not.
And we can add a trivial sysfs attribute for that.
> At this point it's not clear to me if I can write this at all in
> a way that works reasonably correctly on any kernel since let's say
> 4.15 (which is systemd's "recommended baseline" right now).
>
> I am really not sure how to salvage this mess at all. AFAICS there's
> currently no way to write such a test correctly.
You can't. Maybe that's a lesson to not depend on undocumented internal
flags exposed by accident by a weirdo interface. Just talk to people.
> I think it would be nice if the "capabilities" thing would be brought
> back in a limited form. For example, if it would be changed to start
> to return 0x200|0x1000 for part scanning is off, 0x1000 when it is on.
>
> That would then mean we return to compatibility with Linux <= 5.15,
> but the new 0x1000 bit would tell us that the information is
> reliable. i.e. if userspace sees 0x1000 being set we know that the
> 0x200 bit is definitely correct. That would then just mean that
> kernels >= 5.16 until today are left in the cold...
At this point we're just better off with a clean new interface.
And you can use the old hack for < 5.15 if you care strongly enough
or just talk distros into backporting it to make their lives easier.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-04-09 14:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-04-08 15:13 API break, sysfs "capability" file Lennart Poettering
2024-04-08 17:43 ` Linux regression tracking (Thorsten Leemhuis)
2024-04-08 18:41 ` Keith Busch
2024-04-08 20:23 ` Lennart Poettering
2024-04-08 22:41 ` Keith Busch
2024-04-09 6:09 ` Hannes Reinecke
2024-04-09 8:19 ` Lennart Poettering
2024-04-09 14:15 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2024-04-09 15:17 ` Jens Axboe
2024-04-16 9:26 ` Linux regression tracking (Thorsten Leemhuis)
2024-04-17 15:07 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-04-16 14:18 ` Lennart Poettering
2024-04-16 14:22 ` Jens Axboe
2024-04-16 14:25 ` Lennart Poettering
2024-04-16 14:33 ` Jens Axboe
2024-04-24 8:09 ` Linux regression tracking (Thorsten Leemhuis)
2024-04-25 13:08 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-04-16 14:23 ` Lennart Poettering
2024-04-16 14:44 ` Keith Busch
2024-04-17 15:13 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-04-17 15:48 ` Lennart Poettering
2024-04-17 15:59 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-04-17 16:10 ` Lennart Poettering
2024-04-17 16:22 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-04-17 16:26 ` Lennart Poettering
2024-04-17 16:38 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-04-18 6:28 ` Hannes Reinecke
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