From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from verein.lst.de (verein.lst.de [213.95.11.211]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DF6982248A1; Tue, 10 Dec 2024 07:13:00 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=213.95.11.211 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1733814783; cv=none; b=JWf+p52Fxs90ucW1RE9o2Pyjm4WTWhxhR+DgkwG8eVM7REY6rNa9NDq6G8eLyyVkHEoUQ7DEJrLSKNkQILob+NWMKsozGpeCmVBzVWLZG1IJ/wQqvDcEzVku5FJcnLf5KvD7qX8ZZIXRxdcXhLcX1kXNpJ4suMZN5yLw6jvyeJ8= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1733814783; c=relaxed/simple; bh=/VW9fFpJpECsO9404X78yAIjScJubZ6XEb5rfPEXHos=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=O0tQ/W2+geGxCvyCiTWvNGVlvR5N7CREnH8oTKdouIWdUDnD55vWYjGJmmiF8kJlNlqgfZ0SvVS3xbzNL+i65W3SDcJs687V4DnPkWk9rR0R0kyZzZnQmypmKZJdAmzr58d8EyurKA1VfKFxj7VBGlDTvYpH9dh20ZLaBNL6VLQ= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=lst.de; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=lst.de; arc=none smtp.client-ip=213.95.11.211 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=lst.de Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=lst.de Received: by verein.lst.de (Postfix, from userid 2407) id A863168C4E; Tue, 10 Dec 2024 08:12:54 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2024 08:12:53 +0100 From: Christoph Hellwig To: "Martin K. Petersen" Cc: Nitesh Shetty , Bart Van Assche , Javier Gonzalez , Matthew Wilcox , Keith Busch , Christoph Hellwig , Keith Busch , "linux-block@vger.kernel.org" , "linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org" , "linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org" , "io-uring@vger.kernel.org" , "linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" , "joshi.k@samsung.com" Subject: Re: [PATCHv10 0/9] write hints with nvme fdp, scsi streams Message-ID: <20241210071253.GA19956@lst.de> References: <20241112135233.2iwgwe443rnuivyb@ubuntu> <9d61a62f-6d95-4588-bcd8-de4433a9c1bb@acm.org> <8ef1ec5b-4b39-46db-a4ed-abf88cbba2cd@acm.org> <20241205080342.7gccjmyqydt2hb7z@ubuntu> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-block@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) On Thu, Dec 05, 2024 at 03:37:25PM -0500, Martin K. Petersen wrote: > The problem with option 2 is that when you're doing copy between two > different LUNs, then you suddenly have to maintain state in one kernel > object about stuff relating to another kernel object. I think that is > messy. Seems unnecessarily complex. Generally agreeing with all you said, but do we actually have any serious use case for cross-LU copies? They just seem incredibly complex any not all that useful.