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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: Kanchan Joshi <joshi.k@samsung.com>
Cc: josef@toxicpanda.com, dsterba@suse.com, clm@fb.com,
	axboe@kernel.dk, kbusch@kernel.org, hch@lst.de,
	linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, gost.dev@samsung.com
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/3] Btrfs checksum offload
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2025 16:35:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250129153524.GB5356@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250129140207.22718-1-joshi.k@samsung.com>

On Wed, Jan 29, 2025 at 07:32:04PM +0530, Kanchan Joshi wrote:
> End-to-end data protection (E2EDP)-capable drives require the transfer
> of integrity metadata (PI).
> This is currently handled by the block layer, without filesystem
> involvement/awareness.
> The block layer attaches the metadata buffer, generates the checksum
> (and reftag) for write I/O, and verifies it during read I/O.

That's not quite true.  The block layer automatically adds a PI
payload if not is added by the caller.  The caller can add it's own
PI payload, but currently no file system does this - only the block
device fops as of 6.13 and the nvme and scsi targets.  But file systems
can do that, and I have (hacky and outdated patches) wiring this up
in XFS.

Note that the "auto-PI" vs "caller-PI" isn't very cleanly split
currently, which causes some confusion.  I have a series almost
ready to clean that up a bit.

> There is value in avoiding Copy-on-write (COW) checksum tree on
> a device that can anyway store checksums inline (as part of PI).

Yes.

> This patch series: (a) adds checksum offload awareness to the
> block layer (patch #1),

I've skipped over the patches and don't understand what this offload
awareness concept does compared the file system simply attaching PI
metadata.

> (c) introduces an opt-in (datasum_offload mount option) in Btrfs to
> apply checksum offload for data (patch #3).

Not really important for an initial prototype, but incompatible on-disk
format changes like this need feature flags and not just a mount
option.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-01-29 15:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <CGME20250129141039epcas5p11feb1be4124c0db3c5223325924183a3@epcas5p1.samsung.com>
2025-01-29 14:02 ` [RFC 0/3] Btrfs checksum offload Kanchan Joshi
2025-01-29 14:02   ` [RFC 1/3] block: add integrity offload Kanchan Joshi
2025-01-29 14:02   ` [RFC 2/3] nvme: support " Kanchan Joshi
2025-01-29 14:02   ` [RFC 3/3] btrfs: add checksum offload Kanchan Joshi
2025-01-29 21:27     ` Qu Wenruo
2025-01-29 14:55   ` [RFC 0/3] Btrfs " Johannes Thumshirn
2025-01-31 10:19     ` Kanchan Joshi
2025-01-31 10:29       ` Johannes Thumshirn
2025-02-03 13:25         ` Kanchan Joshi
2025-02-03 13:40           ` Johannes Thumshirn
2025-02-03 14:03             ` Kanchan Joshi
2025-02-03 14:41               ` Johannes Thumshirn
2025-01-29 15:28   ` Keith Busch
2025-01-29 15:40     ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-01-29 18:03       ` Keith Busch
2025-01-30 12:54         ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-01-29 15:35   ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2025-01-30  9:22     ` Kanchan Joshi
2025-01-30 12:53       ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-01-31 10:29         ` Kanchan Joshi
2025-01-31 10:42           ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-01-29 15:55   ` Mark Harmstone
2025-01-29 19:02   ` Goffredo Baroncelli
2025-01-30  9:33     ` Daniel Vacek
2025-01-30 20:21   ` Martin K. Petersen
2025-01-31  7:44     ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-02-03 19:31       ` Martin K. Petersen
2025-02-04  5:12         ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-02-04 12:52           ` Martin K. Petersen
2025-02-04 13:49             ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-02-05  2:31               ` Martin K. Petersen
2025-02-03 13:24     ` Kanchan Joshi

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