From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: Kanchan Joshi <joshi.k@samsung.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
josef@toxicpanda.com, dsterba@suse.com, clm@fb.com,
axboe@kernel.dk, kbusch@kernel.org, linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org,
linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
gost.dev@samsung.com
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/3] Btrfs checksum offload
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2025 11:42:59 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250131104259.GA20153@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <12ee6895-aafe-491e-8dea-c024a2a34563@samsung.com>
On Fri, Jan 31, 2025 at 03:59:17PM +0530, Kanchan Joshi wrote:
> > Also if you trust the device to get things right you do not
> > need to use PI at all - SSDs or hard drives that support PI generally
> > use PI internally anyway, and PRACT just means you treat a format
> > with PI like one without. In other words - no need for an offload
> > here, you might as well just trust the device if you're not doing
> > end to end protection.
>
> Agree that device maybe implementing internal E2E, but that's not a
> contract to be honored. Host can't trust until device says it explicitly.
But you're not doing end to end protection. Once you set PRACT you
basically tell the device to pretend the LU/namespace was formatted
without protection information. That fact that you even need the
flag has always been very confusing to me - the logical way to expose
PI would have been to make PRACT the default and require a flag to
actually look at the passed information. I suspect for SCSI this
is a result of shoe-horning DIF and DIX into existing infrastructure,
and NVMe then blindly copied much of that without thinking how it
fits into an architecture without a separate HBA and without all
the legacy concerns.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-01-31 10:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2025-01-29 14:02 ` [RFC 0/3] Btrfs checksum offload Kanchan Joshi
2025-01-29 14:02 ` [RFC 1/3] block: add integrity offload Kanchan Joshi
2025-01-29 14:02 ` [RFC 2/3] nvme: support " Kanchan Joshi
2025-01-29 14:02 ` [RFC 3/3] btrfs: add checksum offload Kanchan Joshi
2025-01-29 21:27 ` Qu Wenruo
2025-01-29 14:55 ` [RFC 0/3] Btrfs " Johannes Thumshirn
2025-01-31 10:19 ` Kanchan Joshi
2025-01-31 10:29 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2025-02-03 13:25 ` Kanchan Joshi
2025-02-03 13:40 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2025-02-03 14:03 ` Kanchan Joshi
2025-02-03 14:41 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2025-01-29 15:28 ` Keith Busch
2025-01-29 15:40 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-01-29 18:03 ` Keith Busch
2025-01-30 12:54 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-01-29 15:35 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-01-30 9:22 ` Kanchan Joshi
2025-01-30 12:53 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-01-31 10:29 ` Kanchan Joshi
2025-01-31 10:42 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2025-01-29 15:55 ` Mark Harmstone
2025-01-29 19:02 ` Goffredo Baroncelli
2025-01-30 9:33 ` Daniel Vacek
2025-01-30 20:21 ` Martin K. Petersen
2025-01-31 7:44 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-02-03 19:31 ` Martin K. Petersen
2025-02-04 5:12 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-02-04 12:52 ` Martin K. Petersen
2025-02-04 13:49 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-02-05 2:31 ` Martin K. Petersen
2025-02-03 13:24 ` Kanchan Joshi
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