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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: John Garry <john.g.garry@oracle.com>,
	"Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Do we need an opt-in for file systems use of hw atomic writes?
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2025 15:17:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250714131713.GA8742@lst.de> (raw)

Hi all,

I'm currently trying to sort out the nvme atomics limits mess, and
between that, the lack of a atomic write command in nvme, and the
overall degrading quality of cheap consumer nvme devices I'm starting
to free really uneasy about XFS using hardware atomics by default without
an explicit opt-in, as broken atomics implementations will lead to
really subtle data corruption.

Is is just me, or would it be a good idea to require an explicit
opt-in to user hardware atomics?

             reply	other threads:[~2025-07-14 13:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-14 13:17 Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2025-07-14 13:24 ` Do we need an opt-in for file systems use of hw atomic writes? Theodore Ts'o
2025-07-14 13:30   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-07-14 16:04     ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-15  6:00       ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-07-15  3:22     ` Martin K. Petersen
2025-07-15  6:00       ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-07-15 12:45         ` Martin K. Petersen
2025-07-14 13:39 ` John Garry
2025-07-14 13:50   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-07-14 15:53     ` John Garry
2025-07-15  6:02       ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-07-15  8:42         ` John Garry
2025-07-15  9:03           ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-08-19 11:42             ` John Garry
2025-08-19 13:39               ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-08-19 14:36                 ` John Garry
2025-08-19 14:43                   ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-19 14:45                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-08-21 14:01               ` Keith Busch
2025-07-15 10:02         ` Christian Brauner
2025-07-15 11:29           ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-07-15 12:20             ` Christian Brauner
2025-07-15 11:58           ` Theodore Ts'o
2025-07-14 20:53 ` Dave Chinner
2025-07-15  6:05   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-07-15 20:56 ` Keith Busch
2025-07-16  5:50   ` Nilay Shroff

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