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From: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Gao Xiang <hsiangkao@linux.alibaba.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	"Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
	Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	Joseph Qi <joseph.qi@linux.alibaba.com>,
	guanghuifeng@linux.alibaba.com, zongyong.wzy@alibaba-inc.com,
	zyfjeff@linux.alibaba.com,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: question about bd_inode hashing against device_add() // Re: [PATCH 03/11] block: call bdev_add later in device_add_disk
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2025 15:34:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2025103106-proposal-jogging-a076@gregkh> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ec8b1c76-c211-49a5-a056-6a147faddd3b@linux.alibaba.com>

On Fri, Oct 31, 2025 at 08:23:32PM +0800, Gao Xiang wrote:
> 
> 
> On 2025/10/31 18:12, Gao Xiang wrote:
> > Hi Greg,
> > 
> > On 2025/10/31 17:58, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > > On Fri, Oct 31, 2025 at 05:54:10PM +0800, Gao Xiang wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On 2025/10/31 17:45, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> 
> ...
> 
> > > > > But why does the device node
> > > > > get created earlier?  My assumption was that it would only be
> > > > > created by the KOBJ_ADD uevent.  Adding the device model maintainers
> > > > > as my little dig through the core drivers/base/ code doesn't find
> > > > > anything to the contrary, but maybe I don't fully understand it.
> > > > 
> > > > AFAIK, device_add() is used to trigger devtmpfs file
> > > > creation, and it can be observed if frequently
> > > > hotpluging device in the VM and mount.  Currently
> > > > I don't have time slot to build an easy reproducer,
> > > > but I think it's a real issue anyway.
> > > 
> > > As I say above, that's not normal, and you have to be root to do this,
> I just spent time to reproduce with dynamic loop devices and
> actually it's easy if msleep() is located artificiallly,
> the diff as below:
> 
> diff --git a/block/bdev.c b/block/bdev.c
> index 810707cca970..a4273b5ad456 100644
> --- a/block/bdev.c
> +++ b/block/bdev.c
> @@ -821,7 +821,7 @@ struct block_device *blkdev_get_no_open(dev_t dev, bool autoload)
>  	struct inode *inode;
> 
>  	inode = ilookup(blockdev_superblock, dev);
> -	if (!inode && autoload && IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_BLOCK_LEGACY_AUTOLOAD)) {
> +	if (0) {
>  		blk_request_module(dev);
>  		inode = ilookup(blockdev_superblock, dev);
>  		if (inode)
> diff --git a/block/genhd.c b/block/genhd.c
> index 9bbc38d12792..3c9116fdc1ce 100644
> --- a/block/genhd.c
> +++ b/block/genhd.c
> @@ -428,6 +428,8 @@ static void add_disk_final(struct gendisk *disk)
>  	set_bit(GD_ADDED, &disk->state);
>  }
> 
> +#include <linux/delay.h>
> +
>  static int __add_disk(struct device *parent, struct gendisk *disk,
>  		      const struct attribute_group **groups,
>  		      struct fwnode_handle *fwnode)
> @@ -497,6 +499,9 @@ static int __add_disk(struct device *parent, struct gendisk *disk,
>  	if (ret)
>  		goto out_free_ext_minor;
> 
> +	if (disk->major == LOOP_MAJOR)
> +		msleep(2500);           // delay 2.5s for all loops
> +

Yes, so you need to watch for the uevent to happen, THEN it is safe to
access the block device.  Doing it before then isn't a good idea :)

But, if you think this is an issue, do you have a patch that passes your
testing to fix it?

thanks,

greg k-h

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-10-31 14:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-18 14:45 add error handling to add_disk / device_add_disk Christoph Hellwig
2021-08-18 14:45 ` [PATCH 01/11] block: add a sanity check for a live disk in del_gendisk Christoph Hellwig
2021-08-19 10:41   ` Hannes Reinecke
2021-08-18 14:45 ` [PATCH 02/11] block: fold register_disk into device_add_disk Christoph Hellwig
2021-08-19 10:48   ` Hannes Reinecke
2021-08-18 14:45 ` [PATCH 03/11] block: call bdev_add later in device_add_disk Christoph Hellwig
2021-08-20  6:06   ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-10-31  7:46   ` question about bd_inode hashing against device_add() // " Gao Xiang
2025-10-31  9:09     ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-10-31  9:36       ` Gao Xiang
2025-10-31  9:45         ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-10-31  9:54           ` Gao Xiang
2025-10-31  9:58             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-10-31 10:12               ` Gao Xiang
2025-10-31 12:23                 ` Gao Xiang
2025-10-31 12:25                   ` Gao Xiang
2025-10-31 14:34                   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman [this message]
2025-10-31 14:44                     ` Gao Xiang
2025-11-05  3:04                       ` Gao Xiang
2025-11-05 12:30                       ` Christian Brauner
2025-11-05 14:13                         ` Gao Xiang
2025-10-31 14:31                 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-10-31 14:40                   ` Gao Xiang
2021-08-18 14:45 ` [PATCH 04/11] block: create the bdi link earlier " Christoph Hellwig
2021-08-20  6:08   ` Hannes Reinecke
2021-08-18 14:45 ` [PATCH 05/11] block: call blk_integrity_add " Christoph Hellwig
2021-08-20  6:08   ` Hannes Reinecke
2021-08-18 14:45 ` [PATCH 06/11] block: call blk_register_queue " Christoph Hellwig
2021-08-20  6:09   ` Hannes Reinecke
2021-08-18 14:45 ` [PATCH 07/11] block: return errors from blk_integrity_add Christoph Hellwig
2021-08-20  6:10   ` Hannes Reinecke
2021-08-18 14:45 ` [PATCH 08/11] block: return errors from disk_alloc_events Christoph Hellwig
2021-08-20  6:10   ` Hannes Reinecke
2021-08-18 14:45 ` [PATCH 09/11] block: add error handling for device_add_disk / add_disk Christoph Hellwig
2021-08-20  6:12   ` Hannes Reinecke
2021-08-18 14:45 ` [PATCH 10/11] virtio_blk: add error handling support for add_disk() Christoph Hellwig
2021-08-20  6:12   ` Hannes Reinecke
2021-08-18 14:45 ` [PATCH 11/11] null_blk: " Christoph Hellwig
2021-08-20  6:13   ` Hannes Reinecke
2021-08-23 18:57 ` add error handling to add_disk / device_add_disk Jens Axboe
2021-08-23 19:44   ` Luis Chamberlain
2021-08-23 19:50     ` Jens Axboe

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