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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: Gao Xiang <hsiangkao@linux.alibaba.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	"Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
	Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	Joseph Qi <joseph.qi@linux.alibaba.com>,
	guanghuifeng@linux.alibaba.com, zongyong.wzy@alibaba-inc.com,
	zyfjeff@linux.alibaba.com,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: question about bd_inode hashing against device_add() // Re: [PATCH 03/11] block: call bdev_add later in device_add_disk
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2025 10:45:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251031094552.GA10011@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ae38c5dc-da90-4fb3-bb72-61b66ab5a0d2@linux.alibaba.com>

On Fri, Oct 31, 2025 at 05:36:45PM +0800, Gao Xiang wrote:
> Right, sorry yes, disk_uevent(KOBJ_ADD) is in the end.
>
>>  Do you see that earlier, or do you have
>> code busy polling for a node?
>
> Personally I think it will break many userspace programs
> (although I also don't think it's a correct expectation.)

We've had this behavior for a few years, and this is the first report
I've seen.

> After recheck internally, the userspace program logic is:
>   - stat /dev/vdX;
>   - if exists, mount directly;
>   - if non-exists, listen uevent disk_add instead.
>
> Previously, for devtmpfs blkdev files, such stat/mount
> assumption is always valid.

That assumption doesn't seem wrong.  But why does the device node
get created earlier?  My assumption was that it would only be
created by the KOBJ_ADD uevent.  Adding the device model maintainers
as my little dig through the core drivers/base/ code doesn't find
anything to the contrary, but maybe I don't fully understand it.


  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-31  9:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-18 14:45 add error handling to add_disk / device_add_disk Christoph Hellwig
2021-08-18 14:45 ` [PATCH 01/11] block: add a sanity check for a live disk in del_gendisk Christoph Hellwig
2021-08-19 10:41   ` Hannes Reinecke
2021-08-18 14:45 ` [PATCH 02/11] block: fold register_disk into device_add_disk Christoph Hellwig
2021-08-19 10:48   ` Hannes Reinecke
2021-08-18 14:45 ` [PATCH 03/11] block: call bdev_add later in device_add_disk Christoph Hellwig
2021-08-20  6:06   ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-10-31  7:46   ` question about bd_inode hashing against device_add() // " Gao Xiang
2025-10-31  9:09     ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-10-31  9:36       ` Gao Xiang
2025-10-31  9:45         ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2025-10-31  9:54           ` Gao Xiang
2025-10-31  9:58             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-10-31 10:12               ` Gao Xiang
2025-10-31 12:23                 ` Gao Xiang
2025-10-31 12:25                   ` Gao Xiang
2025-10-31 14:34                   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-10-31 14:44                     ` Gao Xiang
2025-11-05  3:04                       ` Gao Xiang
2025-11-05 12:30                       ` Christian Brauner
2025-11-05 14:13                         ` Gao Xiang
2025-10-31 14:31                 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-10-31 14:40                   ` Gao Xiang
2021-08-18 14:45 ` [PATCH 04/11] block: create the bdi link earlier " Christoph Hellwig
2021-08-20  6:08   ` Hannes Reinecke
2021-08-18 14:45 ` [PATCH 05/11] block: call blk_integrity_add " Christoph Hellwig
2021-08-20  6:08   ` Hannes Reinecke
2021-08-18 14:45 ` [PATCH 06/11] block: call blk_register_queue " Christoph Hellwig
2021-08-20  6:09   ` Hannes Reinecke
2021-08-18 14:45 ` [PATCH 07/11] block: return errors from blk_integrity_add Christoph Hellwig
2021-08-20  6:10   ` Hannes Reinecke
2021-08-18 14:45 ` [PATCH 08/11] block: return errors from disk_alloc_events Christoph Hellwig
2021-08-20  6:10   ` Hannes Reinecke
2021-08-18 14:45 ` [PATCH 09/11] block: add error handling for device_add_disk / add_disk Christoph Hellwig
2021-08-20  6:12   ` Hannes Reinecke
2021-08-18 14:45 ` [PATCH 10/11] virtio_blk: add error handling support for add_disk() Christoph Hellwig
2021-08-20  6:12   ` Hannes Reinecke
2021-08-18 14:45 ` [PATCH 11/11] null_blk: " Christoph Hellwig
2021-08-20  6:13   ` Hannes Reinecke
2021-08-23 18:57 ` add error handling to add_disk / device_add_disk Jens Axboe
2021-08-23 19:44   ` Luis Chamberlain
2021-08-23 19:50     ` Jens Axboe

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