From: "Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>
To: Finn Thain <fthain@linux-m68k.org>
Cc: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
"linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-block@vger.kernel.org" <linux-block@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC] Documenting the correct pushback on AI inspired (and other) fixes in older drivers
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2026 21:18:47 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260206051847.GC7693@frogsfrogsfrogs> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5938441c-aaa9-c405-a78a-a66f387a5370@linux-m68k.org>
On Fri, Feb 06, 2026 at 09:57:45AM +1100, Finn Thain wrote:
>
> On Thu, 5 Feb 2026, James Bottomley wrote:
>
> > To set the stage, we in SCSI have seen an uptick in patches to older
> > drivers mostly fixing missing free (data leak) and data race problems.
> > I'm not even sure they're all AI found, but we don't really need to
> > know that.
>
> If I may predict the next scene, by extrapolating only a little, we are
> approaching the point where it will be feasible to request that an AI
> simply generate a new driver, based on chip datasheets plus all of the
> open source drivers available for training, rather than patch the bugs in
> an existing driver.
>
> At that point, what use is a maintainer? I think we can still add value if
Being a magic sources of datasheets obtained through murky means,
obviously. What /was/ grandpa doing when he came home with a bunch of
weird machinery at 3am in 1957?? :P
--D
> we are able to leverage our ability and experience in validating such code
> i.e. prove its correctness somehow. If we can do that, then the codebase
> we presently call Linux might continue to grow because it would remain
> superior than some AI-generated alternative codebase.
>
> Documentation that would raise the bar for patch submissions seems like a
> band-aid. The basic complaint seems to be that minor fixes have become
> cheaper and easier to produce, overwhelming reviewers. The solution has to
> be, make code review cheaper and more effective i.e. fight fire with fire.
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-02-06 5:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-02-05 9:51 [LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC] Documenting the correct pushback on AI inspired (and other) fixes in older drivers James Bottomley
2026-02-05 16:30 ` Bart Van Assche
2026-02-05 20:54 ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-02-05 22:38 ` James Bottomley
2026-02-05 16:40 ` Haris Iqbal
2026-02-05 22:40 ` James Bottomley
2026-02-05 23:37 ` Chuck Lever
2026-02-05 22:57 ` Finn Thain
2026-02-06 5:18 ` Darrick J. Wong [this message]
2026-02-06 22:38 ` Finn Thain
2026-02-08 17:58 ` James Bottomley
2026-02-08 23:41 ` Finn Thain
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