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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@gmail.com>
Cc: "Christoph Hellwig" <hch@lst.de>, "Jens Axboe" <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	"Keith Busch" <kbusch@kernel.org>,
	"Sagi Grimberg" <sagi@grimberg.me>,
	"Alexander Viro" <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	"Christian Brauner" <brauner@kernel.org>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Sumit Semwal" <sumit.semwal@linaro.org>,
	"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	io-uring@vger.kernel.org, linux-media@vger.kernel.org,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org,
	"Nitesh Shetty" <nj.shetty@samsung.com>,
	"Kanchan Joshi" <joshi.k@samsung.com>,
	"Anuj Gupta" <anuj20.g@samsung.com>,
	"Tushar Gohad" <tushar.gohad@intel.com>,
	"William Power" <william.power@intel.com>,
	"Phil Cayton" <phil.cayton@intel.com>,
	"Jason Gunthorpe" <jgg@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 05/10] lib: add dmabuf token infrastructure
Date: Tue, 19 May 2026 08:56:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260519065653.GB8173@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ea47051e-697f-4017-a514-be6ef7c110e9@gmail.com>

On Mon, May 18, 2026 at 03:23:53PM +0100, Pavel Begunkov wrote:
> To be fair, it's not that dma-buf specific. This lib/ code only
> does some resv locking, fence waiting and queuing fences,

But all the dma resv/fence stuff is pretty tied into the dma-buf
ecosystem.  I don't think it would really apply to something not
doing DMA at all.

> otherwise
> all the attaching is done by the driver behind callbacks. Switching
> it to some memfd could be pretty simple. But The main thing it'd
> need to share is iterator handling like forwarding in the block
> layer, and it should be fine as it's already passed as a completely
> opaque object with no knowledge about pages / dma / etc. for the
> middle layers.

But none of that really sits in the current lib/ code anyway?

>> lib/ is most certainly the wrong place for something that absolutely
>> is not library functionality but directly interacts with a few
>> subsystems.
>
> It only interacts with dma-buf, and even for dma-buf attachments
> are created by the driver. Block, nvme, io_uring are users, either
> using the helpers or implementing callbacks.
>
> Ok. Let's assume for the argument's sake it's not dma-buf
> specific, if not lib/, where would you put it? I was also
> assuming that dma-buf being under drivers/ is rather a relic
> of the past rather than the desired location, hmm?

drivers/dma-buf is a pretty natural place for it, I could not thing
where else you'd place dma-buffers.  I'm not sure how hmm has anything
to do with it.

>
>
> -- 
> Pavel Begunkov
---end quoted text---

  reply	other threads:[~2026-05-19  6:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-29 15:25 [PATCH v3 00/10] Add dmabuf read/write via io_uring Pavel Begunkov
2026-04-29 15:25 ` [PATCH v3 01/10] file: add callback for creating long-term dmabuf maps Pavel Begunkov
2026-04-30  6:03   ` Christian König
2026-04-30 18:33     ` Pavel Begunkov
2026-05-04  7:14       ` Christian König
2026-05-13  8:11       ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-04-29 15:25 ` [PATCH v3 02/10] iov_iter: add iterator type for " Pavel Begunkov
2026-05-13  8:11   ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-05-13 10:05   ` David Laight
2026-05-13 13:29     ` David Laight
2026-05-18  9:24       ` Pavel Begunkov
2026-05-18 10:40         ` David Laight
2026-04-29 15:25 ` [PATCH v3 03/10] block: move bvec init into __bio_clone Pavel Begunkov
2026-05-13  8:12   ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-05-18  9:10     ` Pavel Begunkov
2026-04-29 15:25 ` [PATCH v3 04/10] block: introduce dma map backed bio type Pavel Begunkov
2026-05-13  8:19   ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-05-18 10:29     ` Pavel Begunkov
2026-05-18 12:22       ` Christian König
2026-05-18 12:40         ` Pavel Begunkov
2026-05-18 12:57           ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-05-18 13:59             ` Pavel Begunkov
2026-05-18 12:54       ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-05-19  9:21       ` David Laight
2026-05-20  8:30       ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-05-25  7:29         ` Pavel Begunkov
2026-05-13  8:39   ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-05-18  9:11     ` Pavel Begunkov
2026-04-29 15:25 ` [PATCH v3 05/10] lib: add dmabuf token infrastructure Pavel Begunkov
2026-05-13  8:24   ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-05-18 10:14     ` Pavel Begunkov
2026-05-18 12:53       ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-05-18 14:23         ` Pavel Begunkov
2026-05-19  6:56           ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2026-05-19  7:55             ` Pavel Begunkov
2026-05-19  9:25               ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-05-18 11:24   ` Markus Elfring
2026-05-18 14:02   ` Markus Elfring
2026-04-29 15:25 ` [PATCH v3 06/10] block: forward create_dmabuf_token to drivers Pavel Begunkov
2026-05-13  8:25   ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-05-18  9:13     ` Pavel Begunkov
2026-04-29 15:25 ` [PATCH v3 07/10] nvme-pci: implement dma_token backed requests Pavel Begunkov
2026-04-29 15:29   ` Pavel Begunkov
2026-04-29 16:07   ` Maurizio Lombardi
2026-04-30 18:18     ` Pavel Begunkov
2026-05-13  8:38   ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-05-18  9:29     ` Pavel Begunkov
2026-05-18 10:18       ` Anuj Gupta/Anuj Gupta
2026-05-18 10:30         ` Pavel Begunkov
2026-04-29 15:25 ` [PATCH v3 08/10] io_uring/rsrc: introduce buf registration structure Pavel Begunkov
2026-04-29 15:25 ` [PATCH v3 09/10] io_uring/rsrc: extend buffer update Pavel Begunkov
2026-04-29 15:25 ` [PATCH v3 10/10] io_uring/rsrc: add dmabuf backed registered buffers Pavel Begunkov
2026-05-04 15:29 ` [PATCH v3 00/10] Add dmabuf read/write via io_uring Ming Lei
2026-05-06  9:02   ` Pavel Begunkov
2026-05-07  9:50     ` Ming Lei
2026-05-12  9:30       ` Pavel Begunkov
2026-05-12  7:00 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-05-12  9:30   ` Pavel Begunkov

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