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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: "Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	Carlos Maiolino <cem@kernel.org>,
	Tal Zussman <tz2294@columbia.edu>,
	Anuj Gupta <anuj20.g@samsung.com>,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 12/22] iomap: better read bounce buffering support
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2026 08:26:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260724062623.GG4953@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260723211004.GM2901224@frogsfrogsfrogs>

On Thu, Jul 23, 2026 at 02:10:04PM -0700, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2026 at 04:49:37PM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > Add helpers to bounce buffer an upper bio into one or more lower bios
> > using bounce buffers, and to copy the data back on completion.
> > 
> > Compared to the existing IOMAP_DIO_BOUNCE support for read bios, this
> > has two advantages:  by removing the special bounce bio_vec it allows
> > to the full and "round" size of a single bio, i.e., 1MiB when using
> > 4k pages.  This is important for good performance on HDD.  Additionally
> > it allows to bounce buffer a bio from completion conext, and thus
> > implement a "lazy" bounce buffering scheme, where the data is only
> > read into a bounce buffer after an initial checksum validation failure,
> > thus avoiding the bounce buffering I/O for most I/O.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
> 
> Now that I can see how this is used ("xfs: add support for lazy direct
> read bounce buffering") I think I'm ok with this.  Should there be some
> Documentation/ about how to use PI with iomap?

Maybe.  Although I'd rather have a second example first before coming
up with definitively guidlines.  Note that even without fs pi they
should use bounce buffering for devices that require stable pages to
avoid corruption, but no one has been particularly interested (well,
minus btrfs where the native checksums make it more common).


  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-24  6:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-23 14:49 lazy bounce buffering for checksummed reads Christoph Hellwig
2026-07-23 14:49 ` [PATCH 01/22] iomap: add a separate bio_set for iomap_split_ioend Christoph Hellwig
2026-07-23 16:49   ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-07-24  6:22     ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-07-23 14:49 ` [PATCH 02/22] block: remove bip_should_check Christoph Hellwig
2026-07-23 14:49 ` [PATCH 03/22] block: lift BIP_CHECK_FLAGS to include/linux/bio-integrity.h Christoph Hellwig
2026-07-23 14:49 ` [PATCH 04/22] block: handle nogenerate/noverify properly in fs-integrity Christoph Hellwig
2026-07-23 17:05   ` Anuj gupta
2026-07-23 14:49 ` [PATCH 05/22] iomap: don't free integrity payload that doesn't exist Christoph Hellwig
2026-07-23 16:55   ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-07-23 14:49 ` [PATCH 06/22] block,iomap: fix protection information verification with initial bvec offset Christoph Hellwig
2026-07-23 14:49 ` [PATCH 07/22] block: add task-context bio completion infrastructure Christoph Hellwig
2026-07-23 14:49 ` [PATCH 08/22] block: don't delay bio task completions Christoph Hellwig
2026-07-23 14:49 ` [PATCH 09/22] block: split bio_iov_iter_bounce_write Christoph Hellwig
2026-07-23 14:49 ` [PATCH 10/22] block: export fs_bio_integrity_{alloc,free} Christoph Hellwig
2026-07-23 14:49 ` [PATCH 11/22] block: don't include blk-integrity.h in bdev.c Christoph Hellwig
2026-07-23 14:49 ` [PATCH 12/22] iomap: better read bounce buffering support Christoph Hellwig
2026-07-23 21:10   ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-07-24  6:26     ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2026-07-23 14:49 ` [PATCH 13/22] iomap: add a iomap_ioend_flags helper Christoph Hellwig
2026-07-23 20:52   ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-07-23 14:49 ` [PATCH 14/22] iomap: add a IOMAP_IOEND_INTEGRITY flag Christoph Hellwig
2026-07-23 20:53   ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-07-23 14:49 ` [PATCH 15/22] iomap,xfs: move T10 PI handling for direct I/O into ->submit_io Christoph Hellwig
2026-07-23 20:55   ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-07-23 14:49 ` [PATCH 16/22] xfs: move PI generation into xfs_zone_alloc_and_submit Christoph Hellwig
2026-07-23 20:55   ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-07-23 14:49 ` [PATCH 17/22] xfs: split ioend handling into a separate source file Christoph Hellwig
2026-07-23 20:55   ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-07-23 14:49 ` [PATCH 18/22] xfs: use BIO_COMPLETE_IN_TASK for bounce buffered read I/Os Christoph Hellwig
2026-07-23 15:58   ` Andrey Albershteyn
2026-07-24  6:21     ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-07-24  9:38       ` Andrey Albershteyn
2026-07-23 20:58   ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-07-24  6:21     ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-07-23 14:49 ` [PATCH 19/22] iomap,xfs: move integrity verification to the file system Christoph Hellwig
2026-07-23 21:02   ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-07-24  6:23     ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-07-23 14:49 ` [PATCH 20/22] xfs: add support for lazy direct read bounce buffering Christoph Hellwig
2026-07-23 21:05   ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-07-24  6:24     ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-07-24  6:33       ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-07-23 14:49 ` [PATCH 21/22] xfs: add error injection for lazy " Christoph Hellwig
2026-07-23 21:06   ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-07-23 14:49 ` [PATCH 22/22] xfs: log a message at mount time when using integrity protection Christoph Hellwig
2026-07-23 21:07   ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-07-24  6:25     ` Christoph Hellwig

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