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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 12/13] blk-mq.h: Fix parentheses around macro parameter use
Date: Fri, 5 May 2023 16:28:47 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <322d22f5-7ab0-adbd-45a0-879364d79ce8@efficios.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wg27iiFZWYmjKmULxwkXisOHuAXq=vbiazBabgh9M1rqg@mail.gmail.com>

On 2023-05-05 16:22, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Fri, May 5, 2023 at 1:08 PM Mathieu Desnoyers
> <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com> wrote:
>>
>> The reason why I think the lvalue of a "=" operator can be argued to be
>> "special" is because it is simply invalid to apply many of the C
>> operators to an lvalue (e.g. +, -, /, ...),
> 
> Mathieu, you are simply objectively wrong.
> 
> See here:
> 
>    #define m1(x) (x = 2)
>    #define m2(x) ((x) = 2)
> 
> and then try using the argument "a = b" to those macros.
> 
> Guess which one flags it as an error ("lvalue required") and which one does not?

I'm glad you are proving me wrong. So it was just a lack of imagination 
on my end.

> 
> m2 is the only "good" one. Yes, m1 works in 99% of all cases in
> practice, but if you want a safer macro, you *will* add the
> parentheses.
> 
> So *STOP*ARGUING* based on an incorrect "lowest precedence" basis.
> Even for the "lowest precedence" case, you have the *same* precedence.

Yes, your example clearly shows it.

> The fact is, assignment is not in any way special operation in macros,
> and does not deserve - and should absolutely not have - any special
> "doesn't need parentheses around argument" rules.

Good point. You are right. So that strongly supports the parentheses 
around use of parameters as lvalues. One less special-case to care 
about, which is great.

Thanks,

Mathieu

-- 
Mathieu Desnoyers
EfficiOS Inc.
https://www.efficios.com


  reply	other threads:[~2023-05-05 20:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20230504200527.1935944-1-mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
2023-05-04 20:05 ` [RFC PATCH 12/13] blk-mq.h: Fix parentheses around macro parameter use Mathieu Desnoyers
2023-05-05 13:56   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2023-05-05 18:40     ` Linus Torvalds
2023-05-05 18:49       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2023-05-05 19:54         ` Linus Torvalds
2023-05-05 20:08           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2023-05-05 20:22             ` Linus Torvalds
2023-05-05 20:28               ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2023-05-08 14:28                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2023-05-06 15:45           ` David Laight
2023-05-04 20:05 ` [RFC PATCH 13/13] bio.h: " Mathieu Desnoyers

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