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From: Martin Steigerwald <martin@lichtvoll.de>
To: Michael Schmitz <schmitzmic@gmail.com>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	Joanne Dow <jdow@earthlink.net>,
	Linux/m68k <linux-m68k@lists.linux-m68k.org>,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Subject: [PATCH RFC] block: fix Amiga RDB partition support for disks >= 2 TB
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2018 23:20:07 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3488210.nMeMqUQulA@merkaba> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOmrzkLZCE7jPHVP0Et7L7=8UAAG80v7gpYrKpZVJADQz6PeaA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Michael.

Michael Schmitz - 27.06.18, 22:13:
> On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 8:24 PM, Martin Steigerwald=20
<martin@lichtvoll.de> wrote:
> > Thanks a lot again for your patch.
> >=20
> > schmitzmic@gmail.com - 27.06.18, 03:24:
> >> +               if (start_sect > INT_MAX || nr_sects > INT_MAX
> >> +                       || (start_sect + nr_sects) > INT_MAX) {
> >> +                       pr_err("%s: Warning: RDB partition
> >> overflow!\n", +                               bdevname(state->bdev,
> >=20
> > I=B4d word this:
> >=20
> > Warning: RDB partition 32-bit overflow
> >=20
> > AmigaOS developers can do 64 bit math on a 32 bit operating system.
> > Just like Linux can.
>=20
> Yes, I realize that. I hadn't gone back through all the mails on the
> subject to find out what the exact requrements are on the AmigaOS
> side.
>=20
> Just trying to be as terse as possible to keep checkpatch happy :-(
>=20
> >> b));
> >> +                       pr_err("%s: start 0x%llX size 0x%llX\n",
> >> +                               bdevname(state->bdev, b),
> >> start_sect,
> >> +                               nr_sects);
> >> +                       pr_err("%s: partition incompatible with 32
> >> bit OS\n", +                               bdevname(state->bdev,
> >> b)); +               }
> >=20
> > And as stated in my other reply to the patch:
> >=20
> > partition needs 64 bit disk device support in AmigaOS or AmigaOS
> > like
> > operating systems (NSD64, TD64 or SCSI direct)
>=20
> I'd probably leave it at 'disk needs 64 bit disk device support on
> native OS', and only print that warning once.

This is fine with me.

> Geert has raised another important point about 64 bt device support -
> all this is moot when the Linux kernel wasn't built with large block
> device support enabled (you'd get the same buggy behaviour as before
> the patch there).
>=20
> > see my other reply to the patch and my other mails in the
> > "Re: moving affs + RDB partition support to staging?" thread as to
> > why. And for references.
>=20
> Thanks for collating all the references. Please understand that I
> can't read all of that, and as a simple patch mechanic I won't even
> try to grasp all the subtleties of RDB (I don't even own an Amiga so I
> am quite unlikey to ever use this code path).

I understand that.

> But please also understand that for that reason, I take Joanne's
> advice about backwards compatibility very serious. My patch (actually
> Joanne's originally) changes kernel behaviour from what we consider
> broken (allowing 32 bit overflow in partition address calculations) to
> what we think is the right thing to do. But there might be someone
> out there who used the current behaviour to craft a RDB that aliows
> two separate sets of partitions to coexist on the same disk (one set
> visible to 32 bit disk drivers, before the 32 bit overflow mark, and
> a second set above that mark, visible only to 64 bit drivers.
> Silently changing our parser behaviour might cause said user to now
> trash data past the overflow mark.). This is a little contrived, and
> perhaps I am overcomplicating matters (again), but can't be ruled
> out.
>=20
> In the interest of least surprises, we have to fix the 32 bit overflow
> (so we can even detect that it would have happened), and give the
> user the chance to carefully consider whether to accept the new
> behaviour. That means refusing to make available any partition that
> would have been affected by such overflow.

That is acceptable for me as I told before. Either mount or refuse to=20
mount, but do not overflow and mount nonetheless :)

Mind you, I am not using my Amiga machines either at the moment. And I=20
repurposed the 2 TB disk years ago.=20
=20
> The user has then all options available - force old behaviour by using
> an older kernel, override the parser to force new behaviour (which we
> all assume is correct), or leave the disk well alone.

Sure.

I would not name the kernel option "eat_my_rdb", but use a less=20
dramatizing name.

Maybe just: "allow_64bit_rdb" or something like that.

How does the user come to know about this kernel option? Will you print=20
its name in kernel log?

Thanks,
=2D-=20
Martin

  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-27 21:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-27  1:24 Subject: [PATCH RFC] block: fix Amiga RDB partition support for disks >= 2 TB schmitzmic
2018-06-27  8:13 ` Martin Steigerwald
2018-06-28  3:23   ` jdow
2018-06-27  8:24 ` Martin Steigerwald
2018-06-27 20:13   ` Michael Schmitz
2018-06-27 21:20     ` Martin Steigerwald [this message]
2018-06-28  3:48       ` jdow
2018-06-28  4:58       ` Michael Schmitz
2018-06-28  6:45         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-06-28  7:13           ` Martin Steigerwald
2018-06-28  9:25             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-06-29  8:42               ` Michael Schmitz
2018-06-29  8:51                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-06-29  9:07                   ` Michael Schmitz
2018-06-29  9:12                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-06-29  9:25                       ` Michael Schmitz
2018-06-29 21:24                     ` Martin Steigerwald
2018-06-29 23:24                       ` Michael Schmitz
2018-06-30  0:49                         ` jdow
2018-06-29 21:17                   ` Martin Steigerwald
2018-06-29  9:32                 ` jdow
2018-06-29 21:45                   ` Martin Steigerwald
2018-06-29 23:24                     ` jdow
2018-06-30  0:44                       ` Michael Schmitz
2018-06-30  0:57                         ` jdow
2018-06-30  1:31                           ` Michael Schmitz
2018-06-30  3:56                             ` jdow
2018-06-30  5:26                               ` Michael Schmitz
2018-06-30  6:47                                 ` jdow
2018-06-30  9:07                                   ` Martin Steigerwald
2018-06-30  9:39                                     ` jdow
2018-06-30  8:48                                 ` Martin Steigerwald
2018-06-30  9:28                                   ` jdow
2018-06-30  7:49                               ` Martin Steigerwald
2018-06-30  9:36                                 ` jdow
2018-07-01  2:43                                 ` Michael Schmitz
2018-07-01  4:36                                   ` jdow
2018-07-01 12:26                                   ` Martin Steigerwald
2018-06-29 12:44                 ` Andreas Schwab
2018-06-30 21:21                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-06-29 21:10                 ` Martin Steigerwald
2018-06-28  9:20           ` jdow
2018-06-28  9:29             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-06-29  8:58           ` Michael Schmitz
2018-06-29  9:10             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-06-29  9:19               ` Michael Schmitz
2018-06-28  7:28         ` Martin Steigerwald
2018-06-28  7:39           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-06-28  9:34             ` jdow
2018-06-28  3:49   ` jdow
2018-06-27 13:30 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-06-27 20:43   ` Michael Schmitz
2018-06-28  3:45   ` jdow
2018-06-29  9:12   ` Michael Schmitz
2018-06-30 21:10     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-06-30 21:26       ` Michael Schmitz
2018-07-02  5:29 ` [PATCH] block: fix Amiga partition support for disks >= 1 TB Michael Schmitz
2018-07-02  6:38   ` Kars de Jong
2018-07-02 22:34     ` Michael Schmitz
2018-07-02  8:29   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-07-02 23:58     ` Michael Schmitz
2018-07-03  7:22       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-07-03  8:15         ` Michael Schmitz
2018-07-03 10:02         ` jdow
2018-07-02 19:36   ` Martin Steigerwald
2018-07-02 19:39     ` Martin Steigerwald
2018-07-03  7:19   ` [PATCH v2] " Michael Schmitz
2018-07-03 19:39   ` [PATCH v3] " Michael Schmitz

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