From: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
To: Kiryl Shutsemau <kas@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 04/25] mm/fbatch: lru bit set, no extra ref, while folio on per-cpu fbatch
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2026 01:04:34 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3b8d9cc4-d6f9-6bd6-f774-34cfca9c48c9@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <apAaWsWPV9QEeVwn@thinkstation>
On Thu, 27 Aug 2026, Kiryl Shutsemau wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 24, 2026 at 07:01:20AM -0700, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> > Treat folios on a per-cpu fbatch as if they were already on the lruvec:
> > with PG_lru set, without holding an extra reference. This will enable
> > the removal of most lru_add_drain() and lru_add_drain_all() calls soon.
> >
> > Recognize such a folio by 0x02 set in the folio->lru.next pointer by
> > folio_add_lru().
>
> Hm. pfmemalloc (__GFP_MEMALLOC) thingy already claims the bit. Is it
> safe because such memory is never on LRU?
>
> Are pfmemalloc and PG_lru mutually exclusive?
>
> Do we want to be explicit about this? Like, folio/page_is_pfmemalloc()
> shouldn't return true for PG_lru folios/pages or something.
Gosh, thanks so much for pointing that out: I was completely ignorant
of the the pfmemalloc use, and a bit (bit 1!) shocked to learn of it
(why wouldn't they just reuse a pageflag, I wonder? but doesn't matter).
Anyway, as you've rightly guessed, it's not a problem at all: these
mm/folio.c and mm/mlock.c per-cpu fbatches are entirely for folios;
and if any pfmemalloced page ever get used for a folio (dunno) and
put on an fbatch for LRU, then of course its use of lru.next is
immediately overwritten (first by what this patch writes in lru_next,
then later by the lru.next pointer for whatever LRU it goes on to -
just as before this patch).
If you were to tell me that some subsystem uses PG_lru for some
other purpose, then I would have to get more worried; but we can
be fairly sure that's not so, since mm/compaction.c for one relies
on konwing it's free to play with PG_lru folios.
Whether a folio is ever allocated with __GFP_MEMALLOC, I'm not
certain (haven't looked), but there is no need to exclude that:
it simply would not retain that page_is_pfmemalloc() info across
folio_add_lru().
Does stable_page_flags() present page_is_pfmemalloc() as a KPF
flag? No, it does not, so no problem there either.
This certainly deserves a comment somewhere, but not a problem.
Thanks!
Hugh
p.s. Only in replying do I come to realize that I don't actually
need that bit myself now (we could just put one magic value there).
It comes from all along when I believed it important to be able to
distinguish expected from unexpected entries, then suddenly realized
that actually they want identical treatment, so no need to distinguish.
The lru_add entry pointer is still kept in lru_next, but only to help
in debug. But I would like to go on this way, using the bit, for now:
partly because I'm wary of well-intentioned last-minute changes,
partly because I'm not certain a reason to distinguish won't emerge.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-08-28 8:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-08-24 13:49 [PATCH 00/25] mm/fbatch: drain lru_add_drain() and _all() Hugh Dickins
2026-08-24 13:52 ` [PATCH 01/25] mm/fbatch: remove !CONFIG_SMP special case of folio_activate() Hugh Dickins
2026-08-27 17:23 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-24 13:55 ` [PATCH 02/25] mm/fbatch: allow folios_put_refs() to skip xa_is_value() entries Hugh Dickins
2026-08-27 17:35 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-24 13:58 ` [PATCH 03/25] mm/fbatch: temporarily disable lazyfree and mlock+munlock batching Hugh Dickins
2026-08-24 14:01 ` [PATCH 04/25] mm/fbatch: lru bit set, no extra ref, while folio on per-cpu fbatch Hugh Dickins
2026-08-27 11:46 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-28 8:04 ` Hugh Dickins [this message]
2026-08-28 14:40 ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-08-28 22:20 ` Hugh Dickins
2026-08-24 14:03 ` [PATCH 05/25] mm/fbatch: lru_add_del_folio()+folio_add_lru() after clear_lru() Hugh Dickins
2026-08-24 14:06 ` [PATCH 06/25] mm/fbatch: fbatch_drain_lazyfree(onstack fbatch) before ptl unlock Hugh Dickins
2026-08-24 14:09 ` [PATCH 07/25] mm/fbatch: LRU_NEXT_ACTIVATE bit to optimize folio_activate() Hugh Dickins
2026-08-27 12:02 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-28 8:40 ` Hugh Dickins
2026-08-24 14:11 ` [PATCH 08/25] mm/fbatch: replace mlock_new_folio() by __folio_add_lru(,mlockit) Hugh Dickins
2026-08-24 14:14 ` [PATCH 09/25] mm/fbatch: restore mlock+munlock batching, without extra ref Hugh Dickins
2026-08-24 14:16 ` [PATCH 10/25] mm/fbatch: remove several uses of mlock_drain_local() Hugh Dickins
2026-08-24 14:18 ` [PATCH 11/25] mm/fbatch: remove migration's PAGE_WAS_MLOCKED lru_add_drain() Hugh Dickins
2026-08-24 14:20 ` [PATCH 12/25] mm/fbatch: remove percpu_pvec_drained and folios_put() Hugh Dickins
2026-08-24 14:23 ` [PATCH 13/25] mm/fbatch: no lru_add_drain() to collect_longterm_unpinnable_folios() Hugh Dickins
2026-08-24 14:55 ` [PATCH alt " Hugh Dickins
2026-08-24 18:42 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-27 9:16 ` Hugh Dickins
2026-08-27 9:20 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-24 14:25 ` [PATCH 14/25] mm/fbatch: no lru_add_drain() nor _all() for memfd_wait_for_pins() Hugh Dickins
2026-08-24 14:27 ` [PATCH 15/25] mm/fbatch: remove shake_folio() shake_page() from memory-failure Hugh Dickins
2026-08-24 14:30 ` [PATCH 16/25] mm/fbatch: remove lru_cache_disable(() from NUMA folio migration Hugh Dickins
2026-08-24 14:32 ` [PATCH 17/25] mm/fbatch: no lru_cache_disable() in __alloc_contig_migrate_range() Hugh Dickins
2026-08-24 14:34 ` [PATCH 18/25] mm/fbatch: remove lru_add_drain() and _all() calls from various Hugh Dickins
2026-08-24 14:36 ` [PATCH 19/25] mm/fbatch: vm/stat_refresh include lru_add_drain() on each cpu Hugh Dickins
2026-08-24 14:39 ` [PATCH 20/25] s390/fbatch: no lru_add_drain_all() in s390_wiggle_split_folio() Hugh Dickins
2026-08-26 13:57 ` Claudio Imbrenda
2026-08-27 8:49 ` Hugh Dickins
2026-08-27 12:55 ` Claudio Imbrenda
2026-08-27 20:26 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-28 8:57 ` Hugh Dickins
2026-08-28 15:02 ` Claudio Imbrenda
2026-08-28 22:02 ` Hugh Dickins
2026-08-24 14:41 ` [PATCH 21/25] block/fbatch: no lru_add_drain_all() in invalidate_bdev() Hugh Dickins
2026-08-24 14:44 ` [PATCH 22/25] fs/fbatch: drop_caches invalidate_bh_lrus() not lru_add_drain_all() Hugh Dickins
2026-08-24 14:47 ` [PATCH 23/25] fs,mm/fbatch: use invalidate_bh_lrus() not invalidate_bh_lrus_cpu() Hugh Dickins
2026-08-24 14:49 ` [PATCH 24/25] fs,mm/fbatch: lru_cache_disable() keep off buffer_head lrus only Hugh Dickins
2026-08-24 14:51 ` [PATCH 25/25] mm/fbatch: move lru_add_drain_all() declaration to mm/internal.h Hugh Dickins
2026-08-27 17:16 ` [PATCH 00/25] mm/fbatch: drain lru_add_drain() and _all() David Hildenbrand (Arm)
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