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From: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
To: Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>
Cc: Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>,
	Paolo Valente <paolo.valente@unimore.it>,
	"linux-block@vger.kernel.org" <linux-block@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: move the BFQ io scheduler to orphan state
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2024 12:34:41 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5e19d14b-1ef7-4022-a3a7-e2c1d5001f65@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACRpkdYr=baNp9n2GDtyw9zH5yzi5psbBWHu9jCitby2rS-fhw@mail.gmail.com>

On 9/5/24 12:05 PM, Linus Walleij wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 5, 2024 at 4:58?PM Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk> wrote:
>> On 9/5/24 7:03 AM, Linus Walleij wrote:
> 
>>> Which production? For singlequeue devices it is pretty widespread.
>>
>> We tried it at one point internally at Meta, and it was not pretty.
> 
> I didn't know you used any singlequeue devices.
> 
> If you used it on multiqueue devices, well that can't be recommended.

Of course we have single queue devices, anything that isn't nvme is
basically single queue.

>>> Maybe we should propose these rules to the main udev repository
>>> so that they also go into Debian and we get even wider use?
>>
>> I know you like to push for it to be the default, and I always push back
>> because I don't think it's stable enough for that, and now we have the
>> added complication that it hasn't been maintained for quite a while.
>> So no, I don't think so.
> 
> The reason I like it personally is that it has actually saved me from
> crashing my machine by preserving interactivity on a (single queue)
> device:
> https://people.kernel.org/linusw/bfq-saved-me-from-thrashing

I'd consider that largely anecdotal at this point.

> For Androids and chromebooks it keeps the device interactive
> during heavy disk (eMMC) activity, such as when Android
> updates a pile of apps (.apk files).

I'm somewhat dubious that that problem could not be solved in a much
simpler way than what is BFQ.

-- 
Jens Axboe


      parent reply	other threads:[~2024-09-05 18:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-03 15:53 [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: move the BFQ io scheduler to orphan state Jens Axboe
2024-09-03 17:20 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-09-03 20:06 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-09-04 13:27 ` Ulf Hansson
2024-09-04 13:47   ` Jens Axboe
2024-09-04 13:59     ` Ulf Hansson
2024-09-04 14:05       ` Jens Axboe
2024-09-05 13:03         ` Linus Walleij
2024-09-05 14:57           ` Jens Axboe
2024-09-05 18:05             ` Linus Walleij
2024-09-05 18:18               ` Bart Van Assche
2024-09-05 18:34               ` Jens Axboe [this message]

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