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From: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
To: Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>, Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@acm.org>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	"Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
	Jaegeuk Kim <jaegeuk@kernel.org>,
	alim.akhtar@samsung.com, avri.altman@wdc.com,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] scsi: ufs: mark HPB support as BROKEN
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2021 08:38:36 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <804aabca-35cd-e22b-1108-b82be38f6885@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20211027141231.GA2338303@dhcp-10-100-145-180.wdc.com>

On 10/27/21 8:12 AM, Keith Busch wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 06:16:19AM -0700, Bart Van Assche wrote:
>> On 10/26/21 10:27 PM, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>>> On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 01:10:47PM -0700, Bart Van Assche wrote:
>>>> If blk_insert_cloned_request() is moved into the device mapper then I
>>>> think that blk_mq_request_issue_directly() will need to be exported.
>>>
>>> Which is even worse.
>>>
>>>> How
>>>> about the (totally untested) patch below for removing the
>>>> blk_insert_cloned_request() call from the UFS-HPB code?
>>>
>>> Which again doesn't fix anything.  The problem is that it fans out one
>>> request into two on the same queue, not the specific interface used.
>>
>> That patch fixes the reported issue, namely removing the additional accounting
>> caused by calling blk_insert_cloned_request(). Please explain why it is
>> considered wrong to fan out one request into two. That code could be reworked
>> such that the block layer is not involved as Adrian Hunter explained. However,
>> before someone spends time on making these changes I think that someone should
>> provide more information about why it is considered wrong to fan out one request
>> into two.
> 
> The original request consumes a tag from that queue's tagset. If the
> lifetime of that tag depends on that same queue having another free tag,
> you can deadlock.

And to expand on that, one potential solution would be to require as
many reserved tags as normal tags, and have the cloned/direct insert
grab requests out of the reserved pool. That guarantees the forward
progress that is currently violated by randomly requiring an extra tag.

-- 
Jens Axboe


  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-27 14:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-26  7:12 [PATCH] scsi: ufs: mark HPB support as BROKEN Christoph Hellwig
2021-10-26  7:18 ` Hannes Reinecke
2021-10-26  7:24 ` Damien Le Moal
2021-10-26 13:04   ` James Bottomley
2021-10-26 16:36 ` Bart Van Assche
2021-10-26 17:19   ` James Bottomley
2021-10-26 17:25     ` Jens Axboe
2021-10-26 18:05       ` Bart Van Assche
2021-10-26 18:10         ` Jens Axboe
2021-10-26 18:18           ` James Bottomley
2021-10-26 18:27             ` Martin K. Petersen
2021-10-26 20:10               ` Bart Van Assche
2021-10-26 22:22                 ` Daejun Park
2021-10-27  5:27                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-10-27 12:20                   ` James Bottomley
2021-10-28 20:21                     ` Bart Van Assche
2021-10-28 20:33                       ` James Bottomley
2021-10-28 20:53                         ` Bart Van Assche
2021-10-28 21:14                           ` Daejun Park
2021-10-27 13:16                   ` Bart Van Assche
2021-10-27 14:12                     ` Keith Busch
2021-10-27 14:38                       ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2021-10-27 14:43                         ` James Bottomley
2021-10-27 15:03                       ` Ming Lei
2021-10-27 15:06                         ` Jens Axboe
2021-10-27 15:16                           ` Ming Lei
2021-10-27 15:44                             ` Martin K. Petersen
2021-10-27 15:58                               ` Ming Lei
2021-10-27 16:16                                 ` Keith Busch
2021-10-27 16:19                                   ` Jens Axboe
2021-10-28  0:42                                   ` Ming Lei
2021-10-28  1:10                                     ` Daejun Park
2021-10-28  2:07                                       ` Ming Lei
2021-10-27 16:59                                 ` Martin K. Petersen
2021-10-27 15:35                           ` Martin K. Petersen
2021-10-27 15:40                             ` Jens Axboe
2021-10-27 16:16                               ` Martin K. Petersen
2021-10-27 17:01                                 ` Bart Van Assche
2021-10-28  1:32                                   ` Ming Lei
2021-10-29 10:53 ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-10-29 11:39   ` James Bottomley
2021-10-29 13:35     ` Avri Altman
2021-10-29 13:44       ` James Bottomley

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