* [PATCH 3/3] rust: block: convert `block::mq` to use `Refcount`
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@ 2024-10-04 15:52 ` Gary Guo
2024-10-04 16:43 ` Dirk Behme
` (4 more replies)
0 siblings, 5 replies; 23+ messages in thread
From: Gary Guo @ 2024-10-04 15:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Andreas Hindborg, Boqun Feng, Miguel Ojeda, Alex Gaynor, Gary Guo,
Björn Roy Baron, Benno Lossin, Alice Ryhl, Trevor Gross,
Jens Axboe
Cc: Will Deacon, Peter Zijlstra, Mark Rutland, linux-block,
rust-for-linux, linux-kernel
Currently there's a custom reference counting in `block::mq`, which uses
`AtomicU64` Rust atomics, and this type doesn't exist on some 32-bit
architectures. We cannot just change it to use 32-bit atomics, because
doing so will make it vulnerable to refcount overflow. So switch it to
use the kernel refcount `kernel::sync::Refcount` instead.
There is an operation needed by `block::mq`, atomically decreasing
refcount from 2 to 0, which is not available through refcount.h, so
I exposed `Refcount::as_atomic` which allows accessing the refcount
directly.
Cc: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
Cc: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
Signed-off-by: Gary Guo <gary@garyguo.net>
---
rust/kernel/block/mq/operations.rs | 7 +--
rust/kernel/block/mq/request.rs | 70 ++++++++++--------------------
rust/kernel/sync/refcount.rs | 12 +++++
3 files changed, 38 insertions(+), 51 deletions(-)
diff --git a/rust/kernel/block/mq/operations.rs b/rust/kernel/block/mq/operations.rs
index 9ba7fdfeb4b2..36ee5f96c66d 100644
--- a/rust/kernel/block/mq/operations.rs
+++ b/rust/kernel/block/mq/operations.rs
@@ -9,9 +9,10 @@
block::mq::request::RequestDataWrapper,
block::mq::Request,
error::{from_result, Result},
+ sync::Refcount,
types::ARef,
};
-use core::{marker::PhantomData, sync::atomic::AtomicU64, sync::atomic::Ordering};
+use core::marker::PhantomData;
/// Implement this trait to interface blk-mq as block devices.
///
@@ -77,7 +78,7 @@ impl<T: Operations> OperationsVTable<T> {
let request = unsafe { &*(*bd).rq.cast::<Request<T>>() };
// One refcount for the ARef, one for being in flight
- request.wrapper_ref().refcount().store(2, Ordering::Relaxed);
+ request.wrapper_ref().refcount().set(2);
// SAFETY:
// - We own a refcount that we took above. We pass that to `ARef`.
@@ -186,7 +187,7 @@ impl<T: Operations> OperationsVTable<T> {
// SAFETY: The refcount field is allocated but not initialized, so
// it is valid for writes.
- unsafe { RequestDataWrapper::refcount_ptr(pdu.as_ptr()).write(AtomicU64::new(0)) };
+ unsafe { RequestDataWrapper::refcount_ptr(pdu.as_ptr()).write(Refcount::new(0)) };
Ok(0)
})
diff --git a/rust/kernel/block/mq/request.rs b/rust/kernel/block/mq/request.rs
index a0e22827f3f4..7b63c02bdce7 100644
--- a/rust/kernel/block/mq/request.rs
+++ b/rust/kernel/block/mq/request.rs
@@ -8,12 +8,13 @@
bindings,
block::mq::Operations,
error::Result,
+ sync::Refcount,
types::{ARef, AlwaysRefCounted, Opaque},
};
use core::{
marker::PhantomData,
ptr::{addr_of_mut, NonNull},
- sync::atomic::{AtomicU64, Ordering},
+ sync::atomic::Ordering,
};
/// A wrapper around a blk-mq `struct request`. This represents an IO request.
@@ -37,6 +38,9 @@
/// We need to track C and D to ensure that it is safe to end the request and hand
/// back ownership to the block layer.
///
+/// Note that driver can still obtain new `ARef` even there is no `ARef`s in existence by using
+/// `tag_to_rq`, hence the need to distinct B and C.
+///
/// The states are tracked through the private `refcount` field of
/// `RequestDataWrapper`. This structure lives in the private data area of the C
/// `struct request`.
@@ -91,13 +95,17 @@ pub(crate) unsafe fn start_unchecked(this: &ARef<Self>) {
/// C `struct request`. If the operation fails, `this` is returned in the
/// `Err` variant.
fn try_set_end(this: ARef<Self>) -> Result<*mut bindings::request, ARef<Self>> {
- // We can race with `TagSet::tag_to_rq`
- if let Err(_old) = this.wrapper_ref().refcount().compare_exchange(
- 2,
- 0,
- Ordering::Relaxed,
- Ordering::Relaxed,
- ) {
+ // To hand back the ownership, we need the current refcount to be 2.
+ // Since we can race with `TagSet::tag_to_rq`, this needs to atomically reduce
+ // refcount to 0. `Refcount` does not provide a way to do this, so use the underlying
+ // atomics directly.
+ if this
+ .wrapper_ref()
+ .refcount()
+ .as_atomic()
+ .compare_exchange(2, 0, Ordering::Relaxed, Ordering::Relaxed)
+ .is_err()
+ {
return Err(this);
}
@@ -159,13 +167,13 @@ pub(crate) struct RequestDataWrapper {
/// - 0: The request is owned by C block layer.
/// - 1: The request is owned by Rust abstractions but there are no ARef references to it.
/// - 2+: There are `ARef` references to the request.
- refcount: AtomicU64,
+ refcount: Refcount,
}
impl RequestDataWrapper {
/// Return a reference to the refcount of the request that is embedding
/// `self`.
- pub(crate) fn refcount(&self) -> &AtomicU64 {
+ pub(crate) fn refcount(&self) -> &Refcount {
&self.refcount
}
@@ -175,7 +183,7 @@ pub(crate) fn refcount(&self) -> &AtomicU64 {
/// # Safety
///
/// - `this` must point to a live allocation of at least the size of `Self`.
- pub(crate) unsafe fn refcount_ptr(this: *mut Self) -> *mut AtomicU64 {
+ pub(crate) unsafe fn refcount_ptr(this: *mut Self) -> *mut Refcount {
// SAFETY: Because of the safety requirements of this function, the
// field projection is safe.
unsafe { addr_of_mut!((*this).refcount) }
@@ -191,47 +199,13 @@ unsafe impl<T: Operations> Send for Request<T> {}
// mutate `self` are internally synchronized`
unsafe impl<T: Operations> Sync for Request<T> {}
-/// Store the result of `op(target.load())` in target, returning new value of
-/// target.
-fn atomic_relaxed_op_return(target: &AtomicU64, op: impl Fn(u64) -> u64) -> u64 {
- let old = target.fetch_update(Ordering::Relaxed, Ordering::Relaxed, |x| Some(op(x)));
-
- // SAFETY: Because the operation passed to `fetch_update` above always
- // return `Some`, `old` will always be `Ok`.
- let old = unsafe { old.unwrap_unchecked() };
-
- op(old)
-}
-
-/// Store the result of `op(target.load)` in `target` if `target.load() !=
-/// pred`, returning true if the target was updated.
-fn atomic_relaxed_op_unless(target: &AtomicU64, op: impl Fn(u64) -> u64, pred: u64) -> bool {
- target
- .fetch_update(Ordering::Relaxed, Ordering::Relaxed, |x| {
- if x == pred {
- None
- } else {
- Some(op(x))
- }
- })
- .is_ok()
-}
-
// SAFETY: All instances of `Request<T>` are reference counted. This
// implementation of `AlwaysRefCounted` ensure that increments to the ref count
// keeps the object alive in memory at least until a matching reference count
// decrement is executed.
unsafe impl<T: Operations> AlwaysRefCounted for Request<T> {
fn inc_ref(&self) {
- let refcount = &self.wrapper_ref().refcount();
-
- #[cfg_attr(not(CONFIG_DEBUG_MISC), allow(unused_variables))]
- let updated = atomic_relaxed_op_unless(refcount, |x| x + 1, 0);
-
- #[cfg(CONFIG_DEBUG_MISC)]
- if !updated {
- panic!("Request refcount zero on clone")
- }
+ self.wrapper_ref().refcount().inc();
}
unsafe fn dec_ref(obj: core::ptr::NonNull<Self>) {
@@ -243,10 +217,10 @@ unsafe fn dec_ref(obj: core::ptr::NonNull<Self>) {
let refcount = unsafe { &*RequestDataWrapper::refcount_ptr(wrapper_ptr) };
#[cfg_attr(not(CONFIG_DEBUG_MISC), allow(unused_variables))]
- let new_refcount = atomic_relaxed_op_return(refcount, |x| x - 1);
+ let is_zero = refcount.dec_and_test();
#[cfg(CONFIG_DEBUG_MISC)]
- if new_refcount == 0 {
+ if is_zero {
panic!("Request reached refcount zero in Rust abstractions");
}
}
diff --git a/rust/kernel/sync/refcount.rs b/rust/kernel/sync/refcount.rs
index 4a5b815adc05..2cdcb20e8ee2 100644
--- a/rust/kernel/sync/refcount.rs
+++ b/rust/kernel/sync/refcount.rs
@@ -31,6 +31,18 @@ fn as_ptr(&self) -> *mut bindings::refcount_t {
self.0.get()
}
+ /// Get the underlying atomic counter that backs the refcount.
+ ///
+ /// NOTE: This will be changed to LKMM atomic in the future.
+ #[inline]
+ pub fn as_atomic(&self) -> &AtomicI32 {
+ let ptr = self.0.get() as *const AtomicI32;
+ // SAFETY: `refcount_t` is a transparent wrapper of `atomic_t`, which is an atomic 32-bit
+ // integer that is layout-wise compatible with `AtomicI32`. All values are valid for
+ // `refcount_t`, despite some of the values are considered saturated and "bad".
+ unsafe { &*ptr }
+ }
+
/// Get a refcount's value.
#[inline]
pub fn read(&self) -> i32 {
--
2.44.1
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* Re: [PATCH 3/3] rust: block: convert `block::mq` to use `Refcount`
2024-10-04 15:52 ` [PATCH 3/3] rust: block: convert `block::mq` to use `Refcount` Gary Guo
@ 2024-10-04 16:43 ` Dirk Behme
2024-10-04 18:05 ` Andreas Hindborg
` (3 subsequent siblings)
4 siblings, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread
From: Dirk Behme @ 2024-10-04 16:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Gary Guo, Andreas Hindborg, Boqun Feng, Miguel Ojeda, Alex Gaynor,
Björn Roy Baron, Benno Lossin, Alice Ryhl, Trevor Gross,
Jens Axboe
Cc: Will Deacon, Peter Zijlstra, Mark Rutland, linux-block,
rust-for-linux, linux-kernel
Am 04.10.24 um 17:52 schrieb Gary Guo:
> Currently there's a custom reference counting in `block::mq`, which uses
> `AtomicU64` Rust atomics, and this type doesn't exist on some 32-bit
> architectures. We cannot just change it to use 32-bit atomics, because
> doing so will make it vulnerable to refcount overflow. So switch it to
> use the kernel refcount `kernel::sync::Refcount` instead.
>
> There is an operation needed by `block::mq`, atomically decreasing
> refcount from 2 to 0, which is not available through refcount.h, so
> I exposed `Refcount::as_atomic` which allows accessing the refcount
> directly.
>
> Cc: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
> Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
> Cc: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
> Cc: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
> Signed-off-by: Gary Guo <gary@garyguo.net>
> ---
...
> diff --git a/rust/kernel/block/mq/request.rs b/rust/kernel/block/mq/request.rs
> index a0e22827f3f4..7b63c02bdce7 100644
> --- a/rust/kernel/block/mq/request.rs
> +++ b/rust/kernel/block/mq/request.rs
....
> @@ -37,6 +38,9 @@
> /// We need to track C and D to ensure that it is safe to end the request and hand
> /// back ownership to the block layer.
> ///
> +/// Note that driver can still obtain new `ARef` even there is no `ARef`s in existence by using
Do you like to check this sentence? Maybe:
Note that "a" driver can still obtain "a" new `ARef` even "if" there
"are" no `ARef`s in existence by using ....
?
Best regards
Dirk
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* Re: [PATCH 3/3] rust: block: convert `block::mq` to use `Refcount`
2024-10-04 15:52 ` [PATCH 3/3] rust: block: convert `block::mq` to use `Refcount` Gary Guo
2024-10-04 16:43 ` Dirk Behme
@ 2024-10-04 18:05 ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-10-05 15:08 ` Gary Guo
2024-10-04 18:34 ` Andreas Hindborg
` (2 subsequent siblings)
4 siblings, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread
From: Andreas Hindborg @ 2024-10-04 18:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Gary Guo
Cc: Boqun Feng, Miguel Ojeda, Alex Gaynor, Björn Roy Baron,
Benno Lossin, Alice Ryhl, Trevor Gross, Jens Axboe, Will Deacon,
Peter Zijlstra, Mark Rutland, linux-block, rust-for-linux,
linux-kernel
Hi Gary,
"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net> writes:
> Currently there's a custom reference counting in `block::mq`, which uses
> `AtomicU64` Rust atomics, and this type doesn't exist on some 32-bit
> architectures. We cannot just change it to use 32-bit atomics, because
> doing so will make it vulnerable to refcount overflow. So switch it to
> use the kernel refcount `kernel::sync::Refcount` instead.
>
> There is an operation needed by `block::mq`, atomically decreasing
> refcount from 2 to 0, which is not available through refcount.h, so
> I exposed `Refcount::as_atomic` which allows accessing the refcount
> directly.
I would rather wait with this patch until the helper LTO patches land
upstream. Or at least let me run the benchmarks to see the effect of not
inlining these refcount operations.
Best regards,
Andreas
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* Re: [PATCH 3/3] rust: block: convert `block::mq` to use `Refcount`
2024-10-04 15:52 ` [PATCH 3/3] rust: block: convert `block::mq` to use `Refcount` Gary Guo
2024-10-04 16:43 ` Dirk Behme
2024-10-04 18:05 ` Andreas Hindborg
@ 2024-10-04 18:34 ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-10-04 18:43 ` Gary Guo
2024-10-05 7:47 ` Greg KH
2024-10-10 8:41 ` Andreas Hindborg
4 siblings, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread
From: Andreas Hindborg @ 2024-10-04 18:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Gary Guo
Cc: Boqun Feng, Miguel Ojeda, Alex Gaynor, Björn Roy Baron,
Benno Lossin, Alice Ryhl, Trevor Gross, Jens Axboe, Will Deacon,
Peter Zijlstra, Mark Rutland, linux-block, rust-for-linux,
linux-kernel
Hi Gary,
"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net> writes:
[...]
> // SAFETY: All instances of `Request<T>` are reference counted. This
> // implementation of `AlwaysRefCounted` ensure that increments to the ref count
> // keeps the object alive in memory at least until a matching reference count
> // decrement is executed.
> unsafe impl<T: Operations> AlwaysRefCounted for Request<T> {
> fn inc_ref(&self) {
> - let refcount = &self.wrapper_ref().refcount();
> -
> - #[cfg_attr(not(CONFIG_DEBUG_MISC), allow(unused_variables))]
> - let updated = atomic_relaxed_op_unless(refcount, |x| x + 1, 0);
> -
> - #[cfg(CONFIG_DEBUG_MISC)]
> - if !updated {
> - panic!("Request refcount zero on clone")
> - }
> + self.wrapper_ref().refcount().inc();
What happened to the debug code?
BR Andreas
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* Re: [PATCH 3/3] rust: block: convert `block::mq` to use `Refcount`
2024-10-04 18:34 ` Andreas Hindborg
@ 2024-10-04 18:43 ` Gary Guo
2024-10-04 19:18 ` Andreas Hindborg
0 siblings, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread
From: Gary Guo @ 2024-10-04 18:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Andreas Hindborg
Cc: Boqun Feng, Miguel Ojeda, Alex Gaynor, Björn Roy Baron,
Benno Lossin, Alice Ryhl, Trevor Gross, Jens Axboe, Will Deacon,
Peter Zijlstra, Mark Rutland, linux-block, rust-for-linux,
linux-kernel
On Fri, 04 Oct 2024 20:34:01 +0200
Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org> wrote:
> Hi Gary,
>
> "Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net> writes:
>
> [...]
>
> > // SAFETY: All instances of `Request<T>` are reference counted. This
> > // implementation of `AlwaysRefCounted` ensure that increments to the ref count
> > // keeps the object alive in memory at least until a matching reference count
> > // decrement is executed.
> > unsafe impl<T: Operations> AlwaysRefCounted for Request<T> {
> > fn inc_ref(&self) {
> > - let refcount = &self.wrapper_ref().refcount();
> > -
> > - #[cfg_attr(not(CONFIG_DEBUG_MISC), allow(unused_variables))]
> > - let updated = atomic_relaxed_op_unless(refcount, |x| x + 1, 0);
> > -
> > - #[cfg(CONFIG_DEBUG_MISC)]
> > - if !updated {
> > - panic!("Request refcount zero on clone")
> > - }
> > + self.wrapper_ref().refcount().inc();
>
> What happened to the debug code?
>
>
> BR Andreas
>
`refcount_inc` will WARN and saturate the refcount when trying to
increment from zero. This is true regardless of config.
I've already captured this in `Refcount::inc` documentation.
Best,
Gary
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* Re: [PATCH 3/3] rust: block: convert `block::mq` to use `Refcount`
2024-10-04 18:43 ` Gary Guo
@ 2024-10-04 19:18 ` Andreas Hindborg
0 siblings, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread
From: Andreas Hindborg @ 2024-10-04 19:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Gary Guo
Cc: Boqun Feng, Miguel Ojeda, Alex Gaynor, Björn Roy Baron,
Benno Lossin, Alice Ryhl, Trevor Gross, Jens Axboe, Will Deacon,
Peter Zijlstra, Mark Rutland, linux-block, rust-for-linux,
linux-kernel
"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net> writes:
> On Fri, 04 Oct 2024 20:34:01 +0200
> Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Gary,
>>
>> "Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net> writes:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> > // SAFETY: All instances of `Request<T>` are reference counted. This
>> > // implementation of `AlwaysRefCounted` ensure that increments to the ref count
>> > // keeps the object alive in memory at least until a matching reference count
>> > // decrement is executed.
>> > unsafe impl<T: Operations> AlwaysRefCounted for Request<T> {
>> > fn inc_ref(&self) {
>> > - let refcount = &self.wrapper_ref().refcount();
>> > -
>> > - #[cfg_attr(not(CONFIG_DEBUG_MISC), allow(unused_variables))]
>> > - let updated = atomic_relaxed_op_unless(refcount, |x| x + 1, 0);
>> > -
>> > - #[cfg(CONFIG_DEBUG_MISC)]
>> > - if !updated {
>> > - panic!("Request refcount zero on clone")
>> > - }
>> > + self.wrapper_ref().refcount().inc();
>>
>> What happened to the debug code?
>>
>>
>> BR Andreas
>>
>
> `refcount_inc` will WARN and saturate the refcount when trying to
> increment from zero. This is true regardless of config.
>
> I've already captured this in `Refcount::inc` documentation.
I did not know. Thanks!
BR Andreas
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* Re: [PATCH 3/3] rust: block: convert `block::mq` to use `Refcount`
2024-10-04 15:52 ` [PATCH 3/3] rust: block: convert `block::mq` to use `Refcount` Gary Guo
` (2 preceding siblings ...)
2024-10-04 18:34 ` Andreas Hindborg
@ 2024-10-05 7:47 ` Greg KH
2024-10-05 9:48 ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-10-10 8:41 ` Andreas Hindborg
4 siblings, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread
From: Greg KH @ 2024-10-05 7:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Gary Guo
Cc: Andreas Hindborg, Boqun Feng, Miguel Ojeda, Alex Gaynor,
Björn Roy Baron, Benno Lossin, Alice Ryhl, Trevor Gross,
Jens Axboe, Will Deacon, Peter Zijlstra, Mark Rutland,
linux-block, rust-for-linux, linux-kernel
On Fri, Oct 04, 2024 at 04:52:24PM +0100, Gary Guo wrote:
> There is an operation needed by `block::mq`, atomically decreasing
> refcount from 2 to 0, which is not available through refcount.h, so
> I exposed `Refcount::as_atomic` which allows accessing the refcount
> directly.
That's scary, and of course feels wrong on many levels, but:
> @@ -91,13 +95,17 @@ pub(crate) unsafe fn start_unchecked(this: &ARef<Self>) {
> /// C `struct request`. If the operation fails, `this` is returned in the
> /// `Err` variant.
> fn try_set_end(this: ARef<Self>) -> Result<*mut bindings::request, ARef<Self>> {
> - // We can race with `TagSet::tag_to_rq`
> - if let Err(_old) = this.wrapper_ref().refcount().compare_exchange(
> - 2,
> - 0,
> - Ordering::Relaxed,
> - Ordering::Relaxed,
> - ) {
> + // To hand back the ownership, we need the current refcount to be 2.
> + // Since we can race with `TagSet::tag_to_rq`, this needs to atomically reduce
> + // refcount to 0. `Refcount` does not provide a way to do this, so use the underlying
> + // atomics directly.
> + if this
> + .wrapper_ref()
> + .refcount()
> + .as_atomic()
> + .compare_exchange(2, 0, Ordering::Relaxed, Ordering::Relaxed)
> + .is_err()
Why not just call rust_helper_refcount_set()? Or is the issue that you
think you might not be 2 here? And if you HAVE to be 2, why that magic
value (i.e. why not just always be 1 and rely on normal
increment/decrement?)
I know some refcounts are odd in the kernel, but I don't see where the
block layer is caring about 2 as a refcount anywhere, what am I missing?
thanks,
greg k-h
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* Re: [PATCH 3/3] rust: block: convert `block::mq` to use `Refcount`
2024-10-05 7:47 ` Greg KH
@ 2024-10-05 9:48 ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-10-05 10:09 ` Greg KH
` (2 more replies)
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From: Andreas Hindborg @ 2024-10-05 9:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Greg KH
Cc: Gary Guo, Boqun Feng, Miguel Ojeda, Alex Gaynor,
Björn Roy Baron, Benno Lossin, Alice Ryhl, Trevor Gross,
Jens Axboe, Will Deacon, Peter Zijlstra, Mark Rutland,
linux-block, rust-for-linux, linux-kernel
Hi Greg,
"Greg KH" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> writes:
> On Fri, Oct 04, 2024 at 04:52:24PM +0100, Gary Guo wrote:
>> There is an operation needed by `block::mq`, atomically decreasing
>> refcount from 2 to 0, which is not available through refcount.h, so
>> I exposed `Refcount::as_atomic` which allows accessing the refcount
>> directly.
>
> That's scary, and of course feels wrong on many levels, but:
>
>
>> @@ -91,13 +95,17 @@ pub(crate) unsafe fn start_unchecked(this: &ARef<Self>) {
>> /// C `struct request`. If the operation fails, `this` is returned in the
>> /// `Err` variant.
>> fn try_set_end(this: ARef<Self>) -> Result<*mut bindings::request, ARef<Self>> {
>> - // We can race with `TagSet::tag_to_rq`
>> - if let Err(_old) = this.wrapper_ref().refcount().compare_exchange(
>> - 2,
>> - 0,
>> - Ordering::Relaxed,
>> - Ordering::Relaxed,
>> - ) {
>> + // To hand back the ownership, we need the current refcount to be 2.
>> + // Since we can race with `TagSet::tag_to_rq`, this needs to atomically reduce
>> + // refcount to 0. `Refcount` does not provide a way to do this, so use the underlying
>> + // atomics directly.
>> + if this
>> + .wrapper_ref()
>> + .refcount()
>> + .as_atomic()
>> + .compare_exchange(2, 0, Ordering::Relaxed, Ordering::Relaxed)
>> + .is_err()
>
> Why not just call rust_helper_refcount_set()? Or is the issue that you
> think you might not be 2 here? And if you HAVE to be 2, why that magic
> value (i.e. why not just always be 1 and rely on normal
> increment/decrement?)
>
> I know some refcounts are odd in the kernel, but I don't see where the
> block layer is caring about 2 as a refcount anywhere, what am I missing?
It is in the documentation, rendered version available here [1]. Let me
know if it is still unclear, then I guess we need to update the docs.
Also, my session from Recipes has a little bit of discussion regarding
this refcount and it's use [2].
Best regards,
Andreas
[1] https://rust.docs.kernel.org/kernel/block/mq/struct.Request.html#implementation-details
[2] https://youtu.be/1LEvgkhU-t4?si=B1XnJhzCCNnUtRsI&t=1685
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* Re: [PATCH 3/3] rust: block: convert `block::mq` to use `Refcount`
2024-10-05 9:48 ` Andreas Hindborg
@ 2024-10-05 10:09 ` Greg KH
2024-10-05 10:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-10-05 11:59 ` Alice Ryhl
2 siblings, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread
From: Greg KH @ 2024-10-05 10:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Andreas Hindborg
Cc: Gary Guo, Boqun Feng, Miguel Ojeda, Alex Gaynor,
Björn Roy Baron, Benno Lossin, Alice Ryhl, Trevor Gross,
Jens Axboe, Will Deacon, Peter Zijlstra, Mark Rutland,
linux-block, rust-for-linux, linux-kernel
On Sat, Oct 05, 2024 at 11:48:53AM +0200, Andreas Hindborg wrote:
> Hi Greg,
>
> "Greg KH" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> writes:
>
> > On Fri, Oct 04, 2024 at 04:52:24PM +0100, Gary Guo wrote:
> >> There is an operation needed by `block::mq`, atomically decreasing
> >> refcount from 2 to 0, which is not available through refcount.h, so
> >> I exposed `Refcount::as_atomic` which allows accessing the refcount
> >> directly.
> >
> > That's scary, and of course feels wrong on many levels, but:
> >
> >
> >> @@ -91,13 +95,17 @@ pub(crate) unsafe fn start_unchecked(this: &ARef<Self>) {
> >> /// C `struct request`. If the operation fails, `this` is returned in the
> >> /// `Err` variant.
> >> fn try_set_end(this: ARef<Self>) -> Result<*mut bindings::request, ARef<Self>> {
> >> - // We can race with `TagSet::tag_to_rq`
> >> - if let Err(_old) = this.wrapper_ref().refcount().compare_exchange(
> >> - 2,
> >> - 0,
> >> - Ordering::Relaxed,
> >> - Ordering::Relaxed,
> >> - ) {
> >> + // To hand back the ownership, we need the current refcount to be 2.
> >> + // Since we can race with `TagSet::tag_to_rq`, this needs to atomically reduce
> >> + // refcount to 0. `Refcount` does not provide a way to do this, so use the underlying
> >> + // atomics directly.
> >> + if this
> >> + .wrapper_ref()
> >> + .refcount()
> >> + .as_atomic()
> >> + .compare_exchange(2, 0, Ordering::Relaxed, Ordering::Relaxed)
> >> + .is_err()
> >
> > Why not just call rust_helper_refcount_set()? Or is the issue that you
> > think you might not be 2 here? And if you HAVE to be 2, why that magic
> > value (i.e. why not just always be 1 and rely on normal
> > increment/decrement?)
> >
> > I know some refcounts are odd in the kernel, but I don't see where the
> > block layer is caring about 2 as a refcount anywhere, what am I missing?
>
> It is in the documentation, rendered version available here [1]. Let me
> know if it is still unclear, then I guess we need to update the docs.
>
> Also, my session from Recipes has a little bit of discussion regarding
> this refcount and it's use [2].
Ah, ick, that's crazy, ok, good luck!
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH 3/3] rust: block: convert `block::mq` to use `Refcount`
2024-10-05 9:48 ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-10-05 10:09 ` Greg KH
@ 2024-10-05 10:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-10-05 10:57 ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-10-05 11:05 ` Miguel Ojeda
2024-10-05 11:59 ` Alice Ryhl
2 siblings, 2 replies; 23+ messages in thread
From: Peter Zijlstra @ 2024-10-05 10:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Andreas Hindborg
Cc: Greg KH, Gary Guo, Boqun Feng, Miguel Ojeda, Alex Gaynor,
Björn Roy Baron, Benno Lossin, Alice Ryhl, Trevor Gross,
Jens Axboe, Will Deacon, Mark Rutland, linux-block,
rust-for-linux, linux-kernel
On Sat, Oct 05, 2024 at 11:48:53AM +0200, Andreas Hindborg wrote:
> It is in the documentation, rendered version available here [1]. Let me
> know if it is still unclear, then I guess we need to update the docs.
>
> [1] https://rust.docs.kernel.org/kernel/block/mq/struct.Request.html#implementation-details
So I clicked on the link for shits and giggles, and OMG that's
unreadable garbage :/ Is there a plain text form that a normal person
can read?
There's just too much 'layout' and fonts and colours and URGH.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH 3/3] rust: block: convert `block::mq` to use `Refcount`
2024-10-05 10:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
@ 2024-10-05 10:57 ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-10-05 11:05 ` Miguel Ojeda
1 sibling, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread
From: Andreas Hindborg @ 2024-10-05 10:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Peter Zijlstra
Cc: Greg KH, Gary Guo, Boqun Feng, Miguel Ojeda, Alex Gaynor,
Björn Roy Baron, Benno Lossin, Alice Ryhl, Trevor Gross,
Jens Axboe, Will Deacon, Mark Rutland, linux-block,
rust-for-linux, linux-kernel
"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org> writes:
> On Sat, Oct 05, 2024 at 11:48:53AM +0200, Andreas Hindborg wrote:
>
>> It is in the documentation, rendered version available here [1]. Let me
>> know if it is still unclear, then I guess we need to update the docs.
>
>>
>> [1] https://rust.docs.kernel.org/kernel/block/mq/struct.Request.html#implementation-details
>
> So I clicked on the link for shits and giggles, and OMG that's
> unreadable garbage :/ Is there a plain text form that a normal person
> can read?
To each his own, I guess. It is rendered from the source code. There is
a source link at the top of the page that will take you to a rendered
version of the source code, line numbers, syntax highlighting and all.
You can open up the source file in your favorite pager and read it there
as well. This particular text is from rust/kernel/block/mq/request.rs.
BR Andreas
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH 3/3] rust: block: convert `block::mq` to use `Refcount`
2024-10-05 10:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-10-05 10:57 ` Andreas Hindborg
@ 2024-10-05 11:05 ` Miguel Ojeda
1 sibling, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread
From: Miguel Ojeda @ 2024-10-05 11:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Peter Zijlstra
Cc: Andreas Hindborg, Greg KH, Gary Guo, Boqun Feng, Miguel Ojeda,
Alex Gaynor, Björn Roy Baron, Benno Lossin, Alice Ryhl,
Trevor Gross, Jens Axboe, Will Deacon, Mark Rutland, linux-block,
rust-for-linux, linux-kernel
On Sat, Oct 5, 2024 at 12:10 PM Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
>
> So I clicked on the link for shits and giggles, and OMG that's
> unreadable garbage :/ Is there a plain text form that a normal person
> can read?
>
> There's just too much 'layout' and fonts and colours and URGH.
If fonts and colors are the only issue, then it can easily be fixed
with a bit of CSS client-side or we can perhaps add it to a new theme.
Otherwise, people have implemented other renderers and viewers in the
past, including text / terminal-based ones. Nowadays there is unstable
JSON output support that can be used for that without dealing with
HTML:
https://rust-lang.github.io/rfcs/2963-rustdoc-json.html
If you want to use rust.docs.kernel.org, you can also use the "source"
view at the top-right. It is still syntax highlighted a bit -- not
sure if you like that, but you may find it "less busy".
Having said that, there is some logic in the layout (in the non-source
view, I mean) being the way it is in the HTML view -- it may take time
to get used to, but it is quite useful when you know where to look /
click.
Cheers,
Miguel
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH 3/3] rust: block: convert `block::mq` to use `Refcount`
2024-10-05 9:48 ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-10-05 10:09 ` Greg KH
2024-10-05 10:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
@ 2024-10-05 11:59 ` Alice Ryhl
2024-10-05 13:23 ` Gary Guo
2024-10-05 14:51 ` Andreas Hindborg
2 siblings, 2 replies; 23+ messages in thread
From: Alice Ryhl @ 2024-10-05 11:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Andreas Hindborg
Cc: Greg KH, Gary Guo, Boqun Feng, Miguel Ojeda, Alex Gaynor,
Björn Roy Baron, Benno Lossin, Trevor Gross, Jens Axboe,
Will Deacon, Peter Zijlstra, Mark Rutland, linux-block,
rust-for-linux, linux-kernel
On Sat, Oct 5, 2024 at 11:49 AM Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Greg,
>
> "Greg KH" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> writes:
>
> > On Fri, Oct 04, 2024 at 04:52:24PM +0100, Gary Guo wrote:
> >> There is an operation needed by `block::mq`, atomically decreasing
> >> refcount from 2 to 0, which is not available through refcount.h, so
> >> I exposed `Refcount::as_atomic` which allows accessing the refcount
> >> directly.
> >
> > That's scary, and of course feels wrong on many levels, but:
> >
> >
> >> @@ -91,13 +95,17 @@ pub(crate) unsafe fn start_unchecked(this: &ARef<Self>) {
> >> /// C `struct request`. If the operation fails, `this` is returned in the
> >> /// `Err` variant.
> >> fn try_set_end(this: ARef<Self>) -> Result<*mut bindings::request, ARef<Self>> {
> >> - // We can race with `TagSet::tag_to_rq`
> >> - if let Err(_old) = this.wrapper_ref().refcount().compare_exchange(
> >> - 2,
> >> - 0,
> >> - Ordering::Relaxed,
> >> - Ordering::Relaxed,
> >> - ) {
> >> + // To hand back the ownership, we need the current refcount to be 2.
> >> + // Since we can race with `TagSet::tag_to_rq`, this needs to atomically reduce
> >> + // refcount to 0. `Refcount` does not provide a way to do this, so use the underlying
> >> + // atomics directly.
> >> + if this
> >> + .wrapper_ref()
> >> + .refcount()
> >> + .as_atomic()
> >> + .compare_exchange(2, 0, Ordering::Relaxed, Ordering::Relaxed)
> >> + .is_err()
> >
> > Why not just call rust_helper_refcount_set()? Or is the issue that you
> > think you might not be 2 here? And if you HAVE to be 2, why that magic
> > value (i.e. why not just always be 1 and rely on normal
> > increment/decrement?)
> >
> > I know some refcounts are odd in the kernel, but I don't see where the
> > block layer is caring about 2 as a refcount anywhere, what am I missing?
>
> It is in the documentation, rendered version available here [1]. Let me
> know if it is still unclear, then I guess we need to update the docs.
>
> Also, my session from Recipes has a little bit of discussion regarding
> this refcount and it's use [2].
>
> Best regards,
> Andreas
>
>
> [1] https://rust.docs.kernel.org/kernel/block/mq/struct.Request.html#implementation-details
> [2] https://youtu.be/1LEvgkhU-t4?si=B1XnJhzCCNnUtRsI&t=1685
So it sounds like there is one refcount from the C side, and some
number of references from the Rust side. The function checks whether
there's only one Rust reference left, and if so, takes ownership of
the value, correct?
In that case, the CAS should have an acquire ordering to synchronize
with dropping the refcount 3->2 on another thread. Otherwise, you
might have a data race with the operations that happened just before
the 3->2 refcount drop.
Alice
On Sat, Oct 5, 2024 at 11:49 AM Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Greg,
>
> "Greg KH" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> writes:
>
> > On Fri, Oct 04, 2024 at 04:52:24PM +0100, Gary Guo wrote:
> >> There is an operation needed by `block::mq`, atomically decreasing
> >> refcount from 2 to 0, which is not available through refcount.h, so
> >> I exposed `Refcount::as_atomic` which allows accessing the refcount
> >> directly.
> >
> > That's scary, and of course feels wrong on many levels, but:
> >
> >
> >> @@ -91,13 +95,17 @@ pub(crate) unsafe fn start_unchecked(this: &ARef<Self>) {
> >> /// C `struct request`. If the operation fails, `this` is returned in the
> >> /// `Err` variant.
> >> fn try_set_end(this: ARef<Self>) -> Result<*mut bindings::request, ARef<Self>> {
> >> - // We can race with `TagSet::tag_to_rq`
> >> - if let Err(_old) = this.wrapper_ref().refcount().compare_exchange(
> >> - 2,
> >> - 0,
> >> - Ordering::Relaxed,
> >> - Ordering::Relaxed,
> >> - ) {
> >> + // To hand back the ownership, we need the current refcount to be 2.
> >> + // Since we can race with `TagSet::tag_to_rq`, this needs to atomically reduce
> >> + // refcount to 0. `Refcount` does not provide a way to do this, so use the underlying
> >> + // atomics directly.
> >> + if this
> >> + .wrapper_ref()
> >> + .refcount()
> >> + .as_atomic()
> >> + .compare_exchange(2, 0, Ordering::Relaxed, Ordering::Relaxed)
> >> + .is_err()
> >
> > Why not just call rust_helper_refcount_set()? Or is the issue that you
> > think you might not be 2 here? And if you HAVE to be 2, why that magic
> > value (i.e. why not just always be 1 and rely on normal
> > increment/decrement?)
> >
> > I know some refcounts are odd in the kernel, but I don't see where the
> > block layer is caring about 2 as a refcount anywhere, what am I missing?
>
> It is in the documentation, rendered version available here [1]. Let me
> know if it is still unclear, then I guess we need to update the docs.
>
> Also, my session from Recipes has a little bit of discussion regarding
> this refcount and it's use [2].
>
> Best regards,
> Andreas
>
>
> [1] https://rust.docs.kernel.org/kernel/block/mq/struct.Request.html#implementation-details
> [2] https://youtu.be/1LEvgkhU-t4?si=B1XnJhzCCNnUtRsI&t=1685
>
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH 3/3] rust: block: convert `block::mq` to use `Refcount`
2024-10-05 11:59 ` Alice Ryhl
@ 2024-10-05 13:23 ` Gary Guo
2024-10-05 14:56 ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-10-05 14:51 ` Andreas Hindborg
1 sibling, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread
From: Gary Guo @ 2024-10-05 13:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Alice Ryhl
Cc: Andreas Hindborg, Greg KH, Boqun Feng, Miguel Ojeda, Alex Gaynor,
Björn Roy Baron, Benno Lossin, Trevor Gross, Jens Axboe,
Will Deacon, Peter Zijlstra, Mark Rutland, linux-block,
rust-for-linux, linux-kernel
On Sat, 5 Oct 2024 13:59:44 +0200
Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 5, 2024 at 11:49 AM Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Greg,
> >
> > "Greg KH" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> writes:
> >
> > > On Fri, Oct 04, 2024 at 04:52:24PM +0100, Gary Guo wrote:
> > >> There is an operation needed by `block::mq`, atomically decreasing
> > >> refcount from 2 to 0, which is not available through refcount.h, so
> > >> I exposed `Refcount::as_atomic` which allows accessing the refcount
> > >> directly.
> > >
> > > That's scary, and of course feels wrong on many levels, but:
> > >
> > >
> > >> @@ -91,13 +95,17 @@ pub(crate) unsafe fn start_unchecked(this: &ARef<Self>) {
> > >> /// C `struct request`. If the operation fails, `this` is returned in the
> > >> /// `Err` variant.
> > >> fn try_set_end(this: ARef<Self>) -> Result<*mut bindings::request, ARef<Self>> {
> > >> - // We can race with `TagSet::tag_to_rq`
> > >> - if let Err(_old) = this.wrapper_ref().refcount().compare_exchange(
> > >> - 2,
> > >> - 0,
> > >> - Ordering::Relaxed,
> > >> - Ordering::Relaxed,
> > >> - ) {
> > >> + // To hand back the ownership, we need the current refcount to be 2.
> > >> + // Since we can race with `TagSet::tag_to_rq`, this needs to atomically reduce
> > >> + // refcount to 0. `Refcount` does not provide a way to do this, so use the underlying
> > >> + // atomics directly.
> > >> + if this
> > >> + .wrapper_ref()
> > >> + .refcount()
> > >> + .as_atomic()
> > >> + .compare_exchange(2, 0, Ordering::Relaxed, Ordering::Relaxed)
> > >> + .is_err()
> > >
> > > Why not just call rust_helper_refcount_set()? Or is the issue that you
> > > think you might not be 2 here? And if you HAVE to be 2, why that magic
> > > value (i.e. why not just always be 1 and rely on normal
> > > increment/decrement?)
> > >
> > > I know some refcounts are odd in the kernel, but I don't see where the
> > > block layer is caring about 2 as a refcount anywhere, what am I missing?
> >
> > It is in the documentation, rendered version available here [1]. Let me
> > know if it is still unclear, then I guess we need to update the docs.
> >
> > Also, my session from Recipes has a little bit of discussion regarding
> > this refcount and it's use [2].
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Andreas
> >
> >
> > [1] https://rust.docs.kernel.org/kernel/block/mq/struct.Request.html#implementation-details
> > [2] https://youtu.be/1LEvgkhU-t4?si=B1XnJhzCCNnUtRsI&t=1685
>
> So it sounds like there is one refcount from the C side, and some
> number of references from the Rust side. The function checks whether
> there's only one Rust reference left, and if so, takes ownership of
> the value, correct?
>
> In that case, the CAS should have an acquire ordering to synchronize
> with dropping the refcount 3->2 on another thread. Otherwise, you
> might have a data race with the operations that happened just before
> the 3->2 refcount drop.
>
> Alice
The code as is is fine since there's no data protected in
`RequestDataWrapper` yet (in fact it's not even generic yet). I know
Andreas does want to introduce driver-specific data into that, so in
the long term the acquire would be necessary.
Andreas, please let me know if you want me to make the change now, or
you'd rather change the ordering when you introduce data to
`RequestDataWrapper`.
Best,
Gary
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH 3/3] rust: block: convert `block::mq` to use `Refcount`
2024-10-05 11:59 ` Alice Ryhl
2024-10-05 13:23 ` Gary Guo
@ 2024-10-05 14:51 ` Andreas Hindborg
1 sibling, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread
From: Andreas Hindborg @ 2024-10-05 14:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Alice Ryhl
Cc: Greg KH, Gary Guo, Boqun Feng, Miguel Ojeda, Alex Gaynor,
Björn Roy Baron, Benno Lossin, Trevor Gross, Jens Axboe,
Will Deacon, Peter Zijlstra, Mark Rutland, linux-block,
rust-for-linux, linux-kernel
"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com> writes:
> On Sat, Oct 5, 2024 at 11:49 AM Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Greg,
>>
>> "Greg KH" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> writes:
>>
>> > On Fri, Oct 04, 2024 at 04:52:24PM +0100, Gary Guo wrote:
>> >> There is an operation needed by `block::mq`, atomically decreasing
>> >> refcount from 2 to 0, which is not available through refcount.h, so
>> >> I exposed `Refcount::as_atomic` which allows accessing the refcount
>> >> directly.
>> >
>> > That's scary, and of course feels wrong on many levels, but:
>> >
>> >
>> >> @@ -91,13 +95,17 @@ pub(crate) unsafe fn start_unchecked(this: &ARef<Self>) {
>> >> /// C `struct request`. If the operation fails, `this` is returned in the
>> >> /// `Err` variant.
>> >> fn try_set_end(this: ARef<Self>) -> Result<*mut bindings::request, ARef<Self>> {
>> >> - // We can race with `TagSet::tag_to_rq`
>> >> - if let Err(_old) = this.wrapper_ref().refcount().compare_exchange(
>> >> - 2,
>> >> - 0,
>> >> - Ordering::Relaxed,
>> >> - Ordering::Relaxed,
>> >> - ) {
>> >> + // To hand back the ownership, we need the current refcount to be 2.
>> >> + // Since we can race with `TagSet::tag_to_rq`, this needs to atomically reduce
>> >> + // refcount to 0. `Refcount` does not provide a way to do this, so use the underlying
>> >> + // atomics directly.
>> >> + if this
>> >> + .wrapper_ref()
>> >> + .refcount()
>> >> + .as_atomic()
>> >> + .compare_exchange(2, 0, Ordering::Relaxed, Ordering::Relaxed)
>> >> + .is_err()
>> >
>> > Why not just call rust_helper_refcount_set()? Or is the issue that you
>> > think you might not be 2 here? And if you HAVE to be 2, why that magic
>> > value (i.e. why not just always be 1 and rely on normal
>> > increment/decrement?)
>> >
>> > I know some refcounts are odd in the kernel, but I don't see where the
>> > block layer is caring about 2 as a refcount anywhere, what am I missing?
>>
>> It is in the documentation, rendered version available here [1]. Let me
>> know if it is still unclear, then I guess we need to update the docs.
>>
>> Also, my session from Recipes has a little bit of discussion regarding
>> this refcount and it's use [2].
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Andreas
>>
>>
>> [1] https://rust.docs.kernel.org/kernel/block/mq/struct.Request.html#implementation-details
>> [2] https://youtu.be/1LEvgkhU-t4?si=B1XnJhzCCNnUtRsI&t=1685
>
> So it sounds like there is one refcount from the C side, and some
> number of references from the Rust side.
C side uses a different refcount field. That refcount never read by
Rust, but it is guaranteed to be greater or equal to one while the
driver owns the request.
Rust uses a different refcount field to keep track of how many Rust
references there is to a request. There is an implicit count while the
driver owns the request. This count is not materialized as an `ARef`
instance.
> The function checks whether there's only one Rust reference left, and
> if so, takes ownership of the value, correct?
It checks if the `ARef` passed to the function is the last one in
existence. If it is, it takes ownership of the `Request` object.
> In that case, the CAS should have an acquire ordering to synchronize
> with dropping the refcount 3->2 on another thread. Otherwise, you
> might have a data race with the operations that happened just before
> the 3->2 refcount drop.
I am not sure. I don't think that the thread that does the CAS 2 -> 0
has any data dependencies to any thread that does the atomic decrement 3
-> 2. Any data dependencies between operations on the underlying C
`struct request` would be synchronized by operations on the `ref` field
of `struct request`, which is entirely managed block layer C code and
the C functions called by the Rust abstractions.
BR Andreas
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH 3/3] rust: block: convert `block::mq` to use `Refcount`
2024-10-05 13:23 ` Gary Guo
@ 2024-10-05 14:56 ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-10-10 8:39 ` Andreas Hindborg
0 siblings, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread
From: Andreas Hindborg @ 2024-10-05 14:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Gary Guo
Cc: Alice Ryhl, Greg KH, Boqun Feng, Miguel Ojeda, Alex Gaynor,
Björn Roy Baron, Benno Lossin, Trevor Gross, Jens Axboe,
Will Deacon, Peter Zijlstra, Mark Rutland, linux-block,
rust-for-linux, linux-kernel
"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net> writes:
> On Sat, 5 Oct 2024 13:59:44 +0200
> Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Oct 5, 2024 at 11:49 AM Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi Greg,
>> >
>> > "Greg KH" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> writes:
>> >
>> > > On Fri, Oct 04, 2024 at 04:52:24PM +0100, Gary Guo wrote:
>> > >> There is an operation needed by `block::mq`, atomically decreasing
>> > >> refcount from 2 to 0, which is not available through refcount.h, so
>> > >> I exposed `Refcount::as_atomic` which allows accessing the refcount
>> > >> directly.
>> > >
>> > > That's scary, and of course feels wrong on many levels, but:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >> @@ -91,13 +95,17 @@ pub(crate) unsafe fn start_unchecked(this: &ARef<Self>) {
>> > >> /// C `struct request`. If the operation fails, `this` is returned in the
>> > >> /// `Err` variant.
>> > >> fn try_set_end(this: ARef<Self>) -> Result<*mut bindings::request, ARef<Self>> {
>> > >> - // We can race with `TagSet::tag_to_rq`
>> > >> - if let Err(_old) = this.wrapper_ref().refcount().compare_exchange(
>> > >> - 2,
>> > >> - 0,
>> > >> - Ordering::Relaxed,
>> > >> - Ordering::Relaxed,
>> > >> - ) {
>> > >> + // To hand back the ownership, we need the current refcount to be 2.
>> > >> + // Since we can race with `TagSet::tag_to_rq`, this needs to atomically reduce
>> > >> + // refcount to 0. `Refcount` does not provide a way to do this, so use the underlying
>> > >> + // atomics directly.
>> > >> + if this
>> > >> + .wrapper_ref()
>> > >> + .refcount()
>> > >> + .as_atomic()
>> > >> + .compare_exchange(2, 0, Ordering::Relaxed, Ordering::Relaxed)
>> > >> + .is_err()
>> > >
>> > > Why not just call rust_helper_refcount_set()? Or is the issue that you
>> > > think you might not be 2 here? And if you HAVE to be 2, why that magic
>> > > value (i.e. why not just always be 1 and rely on normal
>> > > increment/decrement?)
>> > >
>> > > I know some refcounts are odd in the kernel, but I don't see where the
>> > > block layer is caring about 2 as a refcount anywhere, what am I missing?
>> >
>> > It is in the documentation, rendered version available here [1]. Let me
>> > know if it is still unclear, then I guess we need to update the docs.
>> >
>> > Also, my session from Recipes has a little bit of discussion regarding
>> > this refcount and it's use [2].
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> > Andreas
>> >
>> >
>> > [1] https://rust.docs.kernel.org/kernel/block/mq/struct.Request.html#implementation-details
>> > [2] https://youtu.be/1LEvgkhU-t4?si=B1XnJhzCCNnUtRsI&t=1685
>>
>> So it sounds like there is one refcount from the C side, and some
>> number of references from the Rust side. The function checks whether
>> there's only one Rust reference left, and if so, takes ownership of
>> the value, correct?
>>
>> In that case, the CAS should have an acquire ordering to synchronize
>> with dropping the refcount 3->2 on another thread. Otherwise, you
>> might have a data race with the operations that happened just before
>> the 3->2 refcount drop.
>>
>> Alice
>
> The code as is is fine since there's no data protected in
> `RequestDataWrapper` yet (in fact it's not even generic yet). I know
> Andreas does want to introduce driver-specific data into that, so in
> the long term the acquire would be necessary.
>
> Andreas, please let me know if you want me to make the change now, or
> you'd rather change the ordering when you introduce data to
> `RequestDataWrapper`.
I guess we will have said data dependencies when we are going to run
drop for fields in the private data area. Thanks for pointing that out.
I will update the ordering when I submit that patch.
As I mentioned before, I would rather we do not apply this patch before
we get a way to inline helpers.
BR Andreas
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH 3/3] rust: block: convert `block::mq` to use `Refcount`
2024-10-04 18:05 ` Andreas Hindborg
@ 2024-10-05 15:08 ` Gary Guo
2024-10-05 18:47 ` Andreas Hindborg
0 siblings, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread
From: Gary Guo @ 2024-10-05 15:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Andreas Hindborg
Cc: Boqun Feng, Miguel Ojeda, Alex Gaynor, Björn Roy Baron,
Benno Lossin, Alice Ryhl, Trevor Gross, Jens Axboe, Will Deacon,
Peter Zijlstra, Mark Rutland, linux-block, rust-for-linux,
linux-kernel
On Fri, 04 Oct 2024 20:05:41 +0200
Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org> wrote:
> Hi Gary,
>
> "Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net> writes:
>
> > Currently there's a custom reference counting in `block::mq`, which uses
> > `AtomicU64` Rust atomics, and this type doesn't exist on some 32-bit
> > architectures. We cannot just change it to use 32-bit atomics, because
> > doing so will make it vulnerable to refcount overflow. So switch it to
> > use the kernel refcount `kernel::sync::Refcount` instead.
> >
> > There is an operation needed by `block::mq`, atomically decreasing
> > refcount from 2 to 0, which is not available through refcount.h, so
> > I exposed `Refcount::as_atomic` which allows accessing the refcount
> > directly.
>
> I would rather wait with this patch until the helper LTO patches land
> upstream. Or at least let me run the benchmarks to see the effect of not
> inlining these refcount operations.
>
> Best regards,
> Andreas
>
The helper LTO patch series still need some time. I'd want to be able to
test on 32-bit archs in the meantime.
Best,
Gary
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH 3/3] rust: block: convert `block::mq` to use `Refcount`
2024-10-05 15:08 ` Gary Guo
@ 2024-10-05 18:47 ` Andreas Hindborg
0 siblings, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread
From: Andreas Hindborg @ 2024-10-05 18:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Gary Guo
Cc: Boqun Feng, Miguel Ojeda, Alex Gaynor, Björn Roy Baron,
Benno Lossin, Alice Ryhl, Trevor Gross, Jens Axboe, Will Deacon,
Peter Zijlstra, Mark Rutland, linux-block, rust-for-linux,
linux-kernel
"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net> writes:
> On Fri, 04 Oct 2024 20:05:41 +0200
> Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Gary,
>>
>> "Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net> writes:
>>
>> > Currently there's a custom reference counting in `block::mq`, which uses
>> > `AtomicU64` Rust atomics, and this type doesn't exist on some 32-bit
>> > architectures. We cannot just change it to use 32-bit atomics, because
>> > doing so will make it vulnerable to refcount overflow. So switch it to
>> > use the kernel refcount `kernel::sync::Refcount` instead.
>> >
>> > There is an operation needed by `block::mq`, atomically decreasing
>> > refcount from 2 to 0, which is not available through refcount.h, so
>> > I exposed `Refcount::as_atomic` which allows accessing the refcount
>> > directly.
>>
>> I would rather wait with this patch until the helper LTO patches land
>> upstream. Or at least let me run the benchmarks to see the effect of not
>> inlining these refcount operations.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Andreas
>>
>
> The helper LTO patch series still need some time. I'd want to be able to
> test on 32-bit archs in the meantime.
In that case I would rather just conditionally gate the `block` module
and the `rnull` driver on 64 bit arch.
BR Andreas
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH 3/3] rust: block: convert `block::mq` to use `Refcount`
2024-10-05 14:56 ` Andreas Hindborg
@ 2024-10-10 8:39 ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-10-10 9:06 ` Andreas Hindborg
0 siblings, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread
From: Andreas Hindborg @ 2024-10-10 8:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Gary Guo
Cc: Alice Ryhl, Greg KH, Boqun Feng, Miguel Ojeda, Alex Gaynor,
Björn Roy Baron, Benno Lossin, Trevor Gross, Jens Axboe,
Will Deacon, Peter Zijlstra, Mark Rutland, linux-block,
rust-for-linux, linux-kernel
Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org> writes:
> "Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net> writes:
>
>> On Sat, 5 Oct 2024 13:59:44 +0200
>> Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 5, 2024 at 11:49 AM Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hi Greg,
>>> >
>>> > "Greg KH" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> writes:
>>> >
>>> > > On Fri, Oct 04, 2024 at 04:52:24PM +0100, Gary Guo wrote:
>>> > >> There is an operation needed by `block::mq`, atomically decreasing
>>> > >> refcount from 2 to 0, which is not available through refcount.h, so
>>> > >> I exposed `Refcount::as_atomic` which allows accessing the refcount
>>> > >> directly.
>>> > >
>>> > > That's scary, and of course feels wrong on many levels, but:
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >> @@ -91,13 +95,17 @@ pub(crate) unsafe fn start_unchecked(this: &ARef<Self>) {
>>> > >> /// C `struct request`. If the operation fails, `this` is returned in the
>>> > >> /// `Err` variant.
>>> > >> fn try_set_end(this: ARef<Self>) -> Result<*mut bindings::request, ARef<Self>> {
>>> > >> - // We can race with `TagSet::tag_to_rq`
>>> > >> - if let Err(_old) = this.wrapper_ref().refcount().compare_exchange(
>>> > >> - 2,
>>> > >> - 0,
>>> > >> - Ordering::Relaxed,
>>> > >> - Ordering::Relaxed,
>>> > >> - ) {
>>> > >> + // To hand back the ownership, we need the current refcount to be 2.
>>> > >> + // Since we can race with `TagSet::tag_to_rq`, this needs to atomically reduce
>>> > >> + // refcount to 0. `Refcount` does not provide a way to do this, so use the underlying
>>> > >> + // atomics directly.
>>> > >> + if this
>>> > >> + .wrapper_ref()
>>> > >> + .refcount()
>>> > >> + .as_atomic()
>>> > >> + .compare_exchange(2, 0, Ordering::Relaxed, Ordering::Relaxed)
>>> > >> + .is_err()
>>> > >
>>> > > Why not just call rust_helper_refcount_set()? Or is the issue that you
>>> > > think you might not be 2 here? And if you HAVE to be 2, why that magic
>>> > > value (i.e. why not just always be 1 and rely on normal
>>> > > increment/decrement?)
>>> > >
>>> > > I know some refcounts are odd in the kernel, but I don't see where the
>>> > > block layer is caring about 2 as a refcount anywhere, what am I missing?
>>> >
>>> > It is in the documentation, rendered version available here [1]. Let me
>>> > know if it is still unclear, then I guess we need to update the docs.
>>> >
>>> > Also, my session from Recipes has a little bit of discussion regarding
>>> > this refcount and it's use [2].
>>> >
>>> > Best regards,
>>> > Andreas
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > [1] https://rust.docs.kernel.org/kernel/block/mq/struct.Request.html#implementation-details
>>> > [2] https://youtu.be/1LEvgkhU-t4?si=B1XnJhzCCNnUtRsI&t=1685
>>>
>>> So it sounds like there is one refcount from the C side, and some
>>> number of references from the Rust side. The function checks whether
>>> there's only one Rust reference left, and if so, takes ownership of
>>> the value, correct?
>>>
>>> In that case, the CAS should have an acquire ordering to synchronize
>>> with dropping the refcount 3->2 on another thread. Otherwise, you
>>> might have a data race with the operations that happened just before
>>> the 3->2 refcount drop.
>>>
>>> Alice
>>
>> The code as is is fine since there's no data protected in
>> `RequestDataWrapper` yet (in fact it's not even generic yet). I know
>> Andreas does want to introduce driver-specific data into that, so in
>> the long term the acquire would be necessary.
>>
>> Andreas, please let me know if you want me to make the change now, or
>> you'd rather change the ordering when you introduce data to
>> `RequestDataWrapper`.
>
> I guess we will have said data dependencies when we are going to run
> drop for fields in the private data area. Thanks for pointing that out.
> I will update the ordering when I submit that patch.
>
> As I mentioned before, I would rather we do not apply this patch before
> we get a way to inline helpers.
As discussed offline, the code that suffers the performance regression
is downstream, and since this change seems to be important, I can apply
the helper LTO patch downstream as well.
Since the plan for the downstream code _is_ to move upstream, I really
hope to see the helper LTO patch upstream, so we don't get a performance
regression because of these refcounts.
If we cannot figure out a way to get the LTO patches (or an alternative
solution) upstream, we can always revert back to a more performant
solution in block.
BR Andreas
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH 3/3] rust: block: convert `block::mq` to use `Refcount`
2024-10-04 15:52 ` [PATCH 3/3] rust: block: convert `block::mq` to use `Refcount` Gary Guo
` (3 preceding siblings ...)
2024-10-05 7:47 ` Greg KH
@ 2024-10-10 8:41 ` Andreas Hindborg
4 siblings, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread
From: Andreas Hindborg @ 2024-10-10 8:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Gary Guo
Cc: Boqun Feng, Miguel Ojeda, Alex Gaynor, Björn Roy Baron,
Benno Lossin, Alice Ryhl, Trevor Gross, Jens Axboe, Will Deacon,
Peter Zijlstra, Mark Rutland, linux-block, rust-for-linux,
linux-kernel
"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net> writes:
> Currently there's a custom reference counting in `block::mq`, which uses
> `AtomicU64` Rust atomics, and this type doesn't exist on some 32-bit
> architectures. We cannot just change it to use 32-bit atomics, because
> doing so will make it vulnerable to refcount overflow. So switch it to
> use the kernel refcount `kernel::sync::Refcount` instead.
>
> There is an operation needed by `block::mq`, atomically decreasing
> refcount from 2 to 0, which is not available through refcount.h, so
> I exposed `Refcount::as_atomic` which allows accessing the refcount
> directly.
>
> Cc: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
> Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
> Cc: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
> Cc: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
> Signed-off-by: Gary Guo <gary@garyguo.net>
Acked-by: Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org>
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH 3/3] rust: block: convert `block::mq` to use `Refcount`
2024-10-10 8:39 ` Andreas Hindborg
@ 2024-10-10 9:06 ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-10-10 9:48 ` Benno Lossin
0 siblings, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread
From: Andreas Hindborg @ 2024-10-10 9:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Gary Guo
Cc: Alice Ryhl, Greg KH, Boqun Feng, Miguel Ojeda, Alex Gaynor,
Björn Roy Baron, Benno Lossin, Trevor Gross, Jens Axboe,
Will Deacon, Peter Zijlstra, Mark Rutland, linux-block,
rust-for-linux, linux-kernel
Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org> writes:
> Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org> writes:
>
>> "Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net> writes:
>>
>>> On Sat, 5 Oct 2024 13:59:44 +0200
>>> Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, Oct 5, 2024 at 11:49 AM Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Hi Greg,
>>>> >
>>>> > "Greg KH" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> writes:
>>>> >
>>>> > > On Fri, Oct 04, 2024 at 04:52:24PM +0100, Gary Guo wrote:
>>>> > >> There is an operation needed by `block::mq`, atomically decreasing
>>>> > >> refcount from 2 to 0, which is not available through refcount.h, so
>>>> > >> I exposed `Refcount::as_atomic` which allows accessing the refcount
>>>> > >> directly.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > That's scary, and of course feels wrong on many levels, but:
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >> @@ -91,13 +95,17 @@ pub(crate) unsafe fn start_unchecked(this: &ARef<Self>) {
>>>> > >> /// C `struct request`. If the operation fails, `this` is returned in the
>>>> > >> /// `Err` variant.
>>>> > >> fn try_set_end(this: ARef<Self>) -> Result<*mut bindings::request, ARef<Self>> {
>>>> > >> - // We can race with `TagSet::tag_to_rq`
>>>> > >> - if let Err(_old) = this.wrapper_ref().refcount().compare_exchange(
>>>> > >> - 2,
>>>> > >> - 0,
>>>> > >> - Ordering::Relaxed,
>>>> > >> - Ordering::Relaxed,
>>>> > >> - ) {
>>>> > >> + // To hand back the ownership, we need the current refcount to be 2.
>>>> > >> + // Since we can race with `TagSet::tag_to_rq`, this needs to atomically reduce
>>>> > >> + // refcount to 0. `Refcount` does not provide a way to do this, so use the underlying
>>>> > >> + // atomics directly.
>>>> > >> + if this
>>>> > >> + .wrapper_ref()
>>>> > >> + .refcount()
>>>> > >> + .as_atomic()
>>>> > >> + .compare_exchange(2, 0, Ordering::Relaxed, Ordering::Relaxed)
>>>> > >> + .is_err()
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Why not just call rust_helper_refcount_set()? Or is the issue that you
>>>> > > think you might not be 2 here? And if you HAVE to be 2, why that magic
>>>> > > value (i.e. why not just always be 1 and rely on normal
>>>> > > increment/decrement?)
>>>> > >
>>>> > > I know some refcounts are odd in the kernel, but I don't see where the
>>>> > > block layer is caring about 2 as a refcount anywhere, what am I missing?
>>>> >
>>>> > It is in the documentation, rendered version available here [1]. Let me
>>>> > know if it is still unclear, then I guess we need to update the docs.
>>>> >
>>>> > Also, my session from Recipes has a little bit of discussion regarding
>>>> > this refcount and it's use [2].
>>>> >
>>>> > Best regards,
>>>> > Andreas
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > [1] https://rust.docs.kernel.org/kernel/block/mq/struct.Request.html#implementation-details
>>>> > [2] https://youtu.be/1LEvgkhU-t4?si=B1XnJhzCCNnUtRsI&t=1685
>>>>
>>>> So it sounds like there is one refcount from the C side, and some
>>>> number of references from the Rust side. The function checks whether
>>>> there's only one Rust reference left, and if so, takes ownership of
>>>> the value, correct?
>>>>
>>>> In that case, the CAS should have an acquire ordering to synchronize
>>>> with dropping the refcount 3->2 on another thread. Otherwise, you
>>>> might have a data race with the operations that happened just before
>>>> the 3->2 refcount drop.
>>>>
>>>> Alice
>>>
>>> The code as is is fine since there's no data protected in
>>> `RequestDataWrapper` yet (in fact it's not even generic yet). I know
>>> Andreas does want to introduce driver-specific data into that, so in
>>> the long term the acquire would be necessary.
>>>
>>> Andreas, please let me know if you want me to make the change now, or
>>> you'd rather change the ordering when you introduce data to
>>> `RequestDataWrapper`.
>>
>> I guess we will have said data dependencies when we are going to run
>> drop for fields in the private data area. Thanks for pointing that out.
>> I will update the ordering when I submit that patch.
>>
>> As I mentioned before, I would rather we do not apply this patch before
>> we get a way to inline helpers.
>
> As discussed offline, the code that suffers the performance regression
> is downstream, and since this change seems to be important, I can apply
> the helper LTO patch downstream as well.
>
> Since the plan for the downstream code _is_ to move upstream, I really
> hope to see the helper LTO patch upstream, so we don't get a performance
> regression because of these refcounts.
>
> If we cannot figure out a way to get the LTO patches (or an alternative
> solution) upstream, we can always revert back to a more performant
> solution in block.
I forgot to report the result of the benchmarks. Over the usual
benchmark workload that I run for `rnull` I see an average 0.8 percent
performance penalty with this patch. For some configurations
I see 95% CI N=40 [-18%;-5%]. So it is not insignificant.
BR Andreas
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH 3/3] rust: block: convert `block::mq` to use `Refcount`
2024-10-10 9:06 ` Andreas Hindborg
@ 2024-10-10 9:48 ` Benno Lossin
2024-10-10 11:13 ` Andreas Hindborg
0 siblings, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread
From: Benno Lossin @ 2024-10-10 9:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Andreas Hindborg, Gary Guo
Cc: Alice Ryhl, Greg KH, Boqun Feng, Miguel Ojeda, Alex Gaynor,
Björn Roy Baron, Trevor Gross, Jens Axboe, Will Deacon,
Peter Zijlstra, Mark Rutland, linux-block, rust-for-linux,
linux-kernel
On 10.10.24 11:06, Andreas Hindborg wrote:
> Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org> writes:
>
>> Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org> writes:
>>
>>> "Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net> writes:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 5 Oct 2024 13:59:44 +0200
>>>> Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Oct 5, 2024 at 11:49 AM Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Greg,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Greg KH" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 04, 2024 at 04:52:24PM +0100, Gary Guo wrote:
>>>>>>>> There is an operation needed by `block::mq`, atomically decreasing
>>>>>>>> refcount from 2 to 0, which is not available through refcount.h, so
>>>>>>>> I exposed `Refcount::as_atomic` which allows accessing the refcount
>>>>>>>> directly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's scary, and of course feels wrong on many levels, but:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> @@ -91,13 +95,17 @@ pub(crate) unsafe fn start_unchecked(this: &ARef<Self>) {
>>>>>>>> /// C `struct request`. If the operation fails, `this` is returned in the
>>>>>>>> /// `Err` variant.
>>>>>>>> fn try_set_end(this: ARef<Self>) -> Result<*mut bindings::request, ARef<Self>> {
>>>>>>>> - // We can race with `TagSet::tag_to_rq`
>>>>>>>> - if let Err(_old) = this.wrapper_ref().refcount().compare_exchange(
>>>>>>>> - 2,
>>>>>>>> - 0,
>>>>>>>> - Ordering::Relaxed,
>>>>>>>> - Ordering::Relaxed,
>>>>>>>> - ) {
>>>>>>>> + // To hand back the ownership, we need the current refcount to be 2.
>>>>>>>> + // Since we can race with `TagSet::tag_to_rq`, this needs to atomically reduce
>>>>>>>> + // refcount to 0. `Refcount` does not provide a way to do this, so use the underlying
>>>>>>>> + // atomics directly.
>>>>>>>> + if this
>>>>>>>> + .wrapper_ref()
>>>>>>>> + .refcount()
>>>>>>>> + .as_atomic()
>>>>>>>> + .compare_exchange(2, 0, Ordering::Relaxed, Ordering::Relaxed)
>>>>>>>> + .is_err()
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why not just call rust_helper_refcount_set()? Or is the issue that you
>>>>>>> think you might not be 2 here? And if you HAVE to be 2, why that magic
>>>>>>> value (i.e. why not just always be 1 and rely on normal
>>>>>>> increment/decrement?)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I know some refcounts are odd in the kernel, but I don't see where the
>>>>>>> block layer is caring about 2 as a refcount anywhere, what am I missing?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is in the documentation, rendered version available here [1]. Let me
>>>>>> know if it is still unclear, then I guess we need to update the docs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, my session from Recipes has a little bit of discussion regarding
>>>>>> this refcount and it's use [2].
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>> Andreas
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] https://rust.docs.kernel.org/kernel/block/mq/struct.Request.html#implementation-details
>>>>>> [2] https://youtu.be/1LEvgkhU-t4?si=B1XnJhzCCNnUtRsI&t=1685
>>>>>
>>>>> So it sounds like there is one refcount from the C side, and some
>>>>> number of references from the Rust side. The function checks whether
>>>>> there's only one Rust reference left, and if so, takes ownership of
>>>>> the value, correct?
>>>>>
>>>>> In that case, the CAS should have an acquire ordering to synchronize
>>>>> with dropping the refcount 3->2 on another thread. Otherwise, you
>>>>> might have a data race with the operations that happened just before
>>>>> the 3->2 refcount drop.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alice
>>>>
>>>> The code as is is fine since there's no data protected in
>>>> `RequestDataWrapper` yet (in fact it's not even generic yet). I know
>>>> Andreas does want to introduce driver-specific data into that, so in
>>>> the long term the acquire would be necessary.
>>>>
>>>> Andreas, please let me know if you want me to make the change now, or
>>>> you'd rather change the ordering when you introduce data to
>>>> `RequestDataWrapper`.
>>>
>>> I guess we will have said data dependencies when we are going to run
>>> drop for fields in the private data area. Thanks for pointing that out.
>>> I will update the ordering when I submit that patch.
>>>
>>> As I mentioned before, I would rather we do not apply this patch before
>>> we get a way to inline helpers.
>>
>> As discussed offline, the code that suffers the performance regression
>> is downstream, and since this change seems to be important, I can apply
>> the helper LTO patch downstream as well.
>>
>> Since the plan for the downstream code _is_ to move upstream, I really
>> hope to see the helper LTO patch upstream, so we don't get a performance
>> regression because of these refcounts.
>>
>> If we cannot figure out a way to get the LTO patches (or an alternative
>> solution) upstream, we can always revert back to a more performant
>> solution in block.
>
> I forgot to report the result of the benchmarks. Over the usual
> benchmark workload that I run for `rnull` I see an average 0.8 percent
> performance penalty with this patch. For some configurations
> I see 95% CI N=40 [-18%;-5%]. So it is not insignificant.
Was the benchmark run together with the LTO helper patches?
---
Cheers,
Benno
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH 3/3] rust: block: convert `block::mq` to use `Refcount`
2024-10-10 9:48 ` Benno Lossin
@ 2024-10-10 11:13 ` Andreas Hindborg
0 siblings, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread
From: Andreas Hindborg @ 2024-10-10 11:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Benno Lossin
Cc: Gary Guo, Alice Ryhl, Greg KH, Boqun Feng, Miguel Ojeda,
Alex Gaynor, Björn Roy Baron, Trevor Gross, Jens Axboe,
Will Deacon, Peter Zijlstra, Mark Rutland, linux-block,
rust-for-linux, linux-kernel
"Benno Lossin" <benno.lossin@proton.me> writes:
> On 10.10.24 11:06, Andreas Hindborg wrote:
>> Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org> writes:
>>
>>> Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org> writes:
>>>
>>>> "Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 5 Oct 2024 13:59:44 +0200
>>>>> Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 5, 2024 at 11:49 AM Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Greg,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Greg KH" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> writes:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 04, 2024 at 04:52:24PM +0100, Gary Guo wrote:
>>>>>>>>> There is an operation needed by `block::mq`, atomically decreasing
>>>>>>>>> refcount from 2 to 0, which is not available through refcount.h, so
>>>>>>>>> I exposed `Refcount::as_atomic` which allows accessing the refcount
>>>>>>>>> directly.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's scary, and of course feels wrong on many levels, but:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> @@ -91,13 +95,17 @@ pub(crate) unsafe fn start_unchecked(this: &ARef<Self>) {
>>>>>>>>> /// C `struct request`. If the operation fails, `this` is returned in the
>>>>>>>>> /// `Err` variant.
>>>>>>>>> fn try_set_end(this: ARef<Self>) -> Result<*mut bindings::request, ARef<Self>> {
>>>>>>>>> - // We can race with `TagSet::tag_to_rq`
>>>>>>>>> - if let Err(_old) = this.wrapper_ref().refcount().compare_exchange(
>>>>>>>>> - 2,
>>>>>>>>> - 0,
>>>>>>>>> - Ordering::Relaxed,
>>>>>>>>> - Ordering::Relaxed,
>>>>>>>>> - ) {
>>>>>>>>> + // To hand back the ownership, we need the current refcount to be 2.
>>>>>>>>> + // Since we can race with `TagSet::tag_to_rq`, this needs to atomically reduce
>>>>>>>>> + // refcount to 0. `Refcount` does not provide a way to do this, so use the underlying
>>>>>>>>> + // atomics directly.
>>>>>>>>> + if this
>>>>>>>>> + .wrapper_ref()
>>>>>>>>> + .refcount()
>>>>>>>>> + .as_atomic()
>>>>>>>>> + .compare_exchange(2, 0, Ordering::Relaxed, Ordering::Relaxed)
>>>>>>>>> + .is_err()
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why not just call rust_helper_refcount_set()? Or is the issue that you
>>>>>>>> think you might not be 2 here? And if you HAVE to be 2, why that magic
>>>>>>>> value (i.e. why not just always be 1 and rely on normal
>>>>>>>> increment/decrement?)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I know some refcounts are odd in the kernel, but I don't see where the
>>>>>>>> block layer is caring about 2 as a refcount anywhere, what am I missing?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is in the documentation, rendered version available here [1]. Let me
>>>>>>> know if it is still unclear, then I guess we need to update the docs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also, my session from Recipes has a little bit of discussion regarding
>>>>>>> this refcount and it's use [2].
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>> Andreas
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [1] https://rust.docs.kernel.org/kernel/block/mq/struct.Request.html#implementation-details
>>>>>>> [2] https://youtu.be/1LEvgkhU-t4?si=B1XnJhzCCNnUtRsI&t=1685
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So it sounds like there is one refcount from the C side, and some
>>>>>> number of references from the Rust side. The function checks whether
>>>>>> there's only one Rust reference left, and if so, takes ownership of
>>>>>> the value, correct?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In that case, the CAS should have an acquire ordering to synchronize
>>>>>> with dropping the refcount 3->2 on another thread. Otherwise, you
>>>>>> might have a data race with the operations that happened just before
>>>>>> the 3->2 refcount drop.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alice
>>>>>
>>>>> The code as is is fine since there's no data protected in
>>>>> `RequestDataWrapper` yet (in fact it's not even generic yet). I know
>>>>> Andreas does want to introduce driver-specific data into that, so in
>>>>> the long term the acquire would be necessary.
>>>>>
>>>>> Andreas, please let me know if you want me to make the change now, or
>>>>> you'd rather change the ordering when you introduce data to
>>>>> `RequestDataWrapper`.
>>>>
>>>> I guess we will have said data dependencies when we are going to run
>>>> drop for fields in the private data area. Thanks for pointing that out.
>>>> I will update the ordering when I submit that patch.
>>>>
>>>> As I mentioned before, I would rather we do not apply this patch before
>>>> we get a way to inline helpers.
>>>
>>> As discussed offline, the code that suffers the performance regression
>>> is downstream, and since this change seems to be important, I can apply
>>> the helper LTO patch downstream as well.
>>>
>>> Since the plan for the downstream code _is_ to move upstream, I really
>>> hope to see the helper LTO patch upstream, so we don't get a performance
>>> regression because of these refcounts.
>>>
>>> If we cannot figure out a way to get the LTO patches (or an alternative
>>> solution) upstream, we can always revert back to a more performant
>>> solution in block.
>>
>> I forgot to report the result of the benchmarks. Over the usual
>> benchmark workload that I run for `rnull` I see an average 0.8 percent
>> performance penalty with this patch. For some configurations
>> I see 95% CI N=40 [-18%;-5%]. So it is not insignificant.
>
> Was the benchmark run together with the LTO helper patches?
No, that the effect of applying only this patch set alone. I did apply
the helper LTO patches downstream a few times, but I don't carry them in
my default tree. But I guess I can start doing that now.
Best regards,
Andreas
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