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From: Nilay Shroff <nilay@linux.ibm.com>
To: Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>
Cc: "Jens Axboe" <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	"Shinichiro Kawasaki" <shinichiro.kawasaki@wdc.com>,
	"Thomas Hellström" <thomas.hellstrom@linux.intel.com>,
	"Christoph Hellwig" <hch@lst.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 12/15] block: move debugfs/sysfs register out of freezing queue
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2025 15:07:18 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <96d870d2-19f2-489e-951f-b92a56b59bf6@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z_xn-Zl5FDGdZ_Bk@fedora>



On 4/14/25 7:12 AM, Ming Lei wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 11, 2025 at 12:27:17AM +0530, Nilay Shroff wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 4/10/25 7:00 PM, Ming Lei wrote:
>>> Move debugfs/sysfs register out of freezing queue in
>>> __blk_mq_update_nr_hw_queues(), so that the following lockdep dependency
>>> can be killed:
>>>
>>> 	#2 (&q->q_usage_counter(io)#16){++++}-{0:0}:
>>> 	#1 (fs_reclaim){+.+.}-{0:0}:
>>> 	#0 (&sb->s_type->i_mutex_key#3){+.+.}-{4:4}: //debugfs
>>>
>>> And registering/un-registering debugfs/sysfs does not require queue to be
>>> frozen.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>
>>> ---
>>>  block/blk-mq.c | 20 ++++++++++----------
>>>  1 file changed, 10 insertions(+), 10 deletions(-)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/block/blk-mq.c b/block/blk-mq.c
>>> index 7219b01764da..0fb72a698d77 100644
>>> --- a/block/blk-mq.c
>>> +++ b/block/blk-mq.c
>>> @@ -4947,15 +4947,15 @@ static void __blk_mq_update_nr_hw_queues(struct blk_mq_tag_set *set,
>>>  	if (set->nr_maps == 1 && nr_hw_queues == set->nr_hw_queues)
>>>  		return;
>>>  
>>> -	memflags = memalloc_noio_save();
>>> -	list_for_each_entry(q, &set->tag_list, tag_set_list)
>>> -		blk_mq_freeze_queue_nomemsave(q);
>>> -
>>>  	list_for_each_entry(q, &set->tag_list, tag_set_list) {
>>>  		blk_mq_debugfs_unregister_hctxs(q);
>>>  		blk_mq_sysfs_unregister_hctxs(q);
>>>  	}
>> As we removed hctx sysfs protection while un-registering it, this might
>> cause crash or other side-effect if simultaneously these sysfs attributes
>> are accessed. The read access of these attributes are still protected 
>> using ->elevator_lock. 
> 
> The ->elevator_lock in ->show() is useless except for reading the elevator
> internal data(sched tags, requests, ...), even for reading elevator data,
> it should have been relying on elevator reference, instead of lock, but
> that is another topic & improvement in future.
> 
> Also this patch does _not_ change ->elevator_lock for above debugfs/sysfs
> unregistering, does it? It is always done without holding ->elevator_lock.
> Also ->show() does not require ->q_usage_counter too.
> 
> As I mentioned, kobject/sysfs provides protection between ->show()/->store()
> and kobject_del(), isn't it the reason why you want to remove ->sys_lock?
> 
> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-block/20250226124006.1593985-1-nilay@linux.ibm.com/
> 
Yes you were correct, that was the reason we wanted to remove ->sysfs_lock.
However for these particular hctx sysfs attributes (nr_tags and nr_reserved_tags)
could be updated simultaneously from another blk-mq sysfs attribute named nr_requests.
Hence IMO, the default protection provided by sysfs/kernfs may not be sufficient and
so we need to protect those attributes using ->elevator_lock.

Consider this case: While blk_mq_update_nr_hw_queues removes hctx attributes,
and simultaneously if nr_requests is also updating num of tags, would that not 
cause any side effect? Maybe we also want to protect blk_mq_update_nr_requests
with srcu read lock (set->update_nr_hwq_srcu) so that it couldn't run while  
blk_mq_update_nr_hw_queues is in progress?

Thanks,
--Nilay






  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-15  9:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-10 13:30 [PATCH 00/15] block: unify elevator changing and fix lockdep warning Ming Lei
2025-04-10 13:30 ` [PATCH 01/15] block: don't call freeze queue in elevator_switch() and elevator_disable() Ming Lei
2025-04-10 13:30 ` [PATCH 02/15] block: add two helpers for registering/un-registering sched debugfs Ming Lei
2025-04-10 14:25   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-10 13:30 ` [PATCH 03/15] block: move sched debugfs register into elvevator_register_queue Ming Lei
2025-04-10 14:27   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-14  0:42     ` Ming Lei
2025-04-10 13:30 ` [PATCH 04/15] block: prevent elevator switch during updating nr_hw_queues Ming Lei
2025-04-10 14:36   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-14  0:54     ` Ming Lei
2025-04-14  6:07       ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-15  2:03         ` Ming Lei
2025-04-11 19:13   ` Nilay Shroff
2025-04-14  0:55     ` Ming Lei
2025-04-10 13:30 ` [PATCH 05/15] block: simplify elevator reset for " Ming Lei
2025-04-10 14:40   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-10 15:34   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-14  0:58     ` Ming Lei
2025-04-14  6:09       ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-15  2:05         ` Ming Lei
2025-04-10 13:30 ` [PATCH 06/15] block: add helper of elevator_change() Ming Lei
2025-04-10 13:30 ` [PATCH 07/15] block: move blk_unregister_queue() & device_del() after freeze wait Ming Lei
2025-04-14  6:19   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-15  2:26     ` Ming Lei
2025-04-10 13:30 ` [PATCH 08/15] block: add `struct elev_change_ctx` for unifying elevator change Ming Lei
2025-04-14  6:21   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-10 13:30 ` [PATCH 09/15] block: " Ming Lei
2025-04-10 18:37   ` Nilay Shroff
2025-04-14  1:22     ` Ming Lei
2025-04-15 12:30       ` Nilay Shroff
2025-04-16  1:49         ` Ming Lei
2025-04-10 13:30 ` [PATCH 10/15] block: pass elevator_queue to elv_register_queue & unregister_queue Ming Lei
2025-04-14  6:22   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-15  2:31     ` Ming Lei
2025-04-16  4:53       ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-10 13:30 ` [PATCH 11/15] block: move elv_register[unregister]_queue out of elevator_lock Ming Lei
2025-04-11 19:20   ` Nilay Shroff
2025-04-14  1:24     ` Ming Lei
2025-04-15  9:39       ` Nilay Shroff
2025-04-15 10:32         ` Ming Lei
2025-04-10 13:30 ` [PATCH 12/15] block: move debugfs/sysfs register out of freezing queue Ming Lei
2025-04-10 18:57   ` Nilay Shroff
2025-04-14  1:42     ` Ming Lei
2025-04-15  9:37       ` Nilay Shroff [this message]
2025-04-15 10:06         ` Ming Lei
2025-04-15 11:15           ` Nilay Shroff
2025-04-15 11:54             ` Ming Lei
2025-04-15 12:21               ` Nilay Shroff
2025-04-15 12:41                 ` Ming Lei
2025-04-10 13:30 ` [PATCH 13/15] block: remove several ->elevator_lock Ming Lei
2025-04-10 19:07   ` Nilay Shroff
2025-04-14  1:46     ` Ming Lei
2025-04-10 13:30 ` [PATCH 14/15] block: move hctx cpuhp add/del out of queue freezing Ming Lei
2025-04-10 13:30 ` [PATCH 15/15] block: move wbt_enable_default() out of queue freezing from scheduler's ->exit() Ming Lei
2025-04-10 19:20   ` Nilay Shroff
2025-04-14  1:55     ` Ming Lei

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