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From: Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@acm.org>
To: Kanchan Joshi <joshi.k@samsung.com>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
Cc: linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Martin K . Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Niklas Cassel <Niklas.Cassel@wdc.com>,
	Avri Altman <Avri.Altman@wdc.com>, Bean Huo <huobean@gmail.com>,
	Daejun Park <daejun7.park@samsung.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	Jaegeuk Kim <jaegeuk@kernel.org>, Chao Yu <chao@kernel.org>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>,
	Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 01/14] fs: Move enum rw_hint into a new header file
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2023 09:10:00 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9b0990ec-a3c9-48c0-b312-8c07c727e326@acm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b3058ce6-e297-b4c3-71d4-4b76f76439ba@samsung.com>

On 10/30/23 04:11, Kanchan Joshi wrote:
> On 10/18/2023 2:17 AM, Bart Van Assche wrote:
>> +/* Block storage write lifetime hint values. */
>> +enum rw_hint {
>> +	WRITE_LIFE_NOT_SET	= 0, /* RWH_WRITE_LIFE_NOT_SET */
>> +	WRITE_LIFE_NONE		= 1, /* RWH_WRITE_LIFE_NONE */
>> +	WRITE_LIFE_SHORT	= 2, /* RWH_WRITE_LIFE_SHORT */
>> +	WRITE_LIFE_MEDIUM	= 3, /* RWH_WRITE_LIFE_MEDIUM */
>> +	WRITE_LIFE_LONG		= 4, /* RWH_WRITE_LIFE_LONG */
>> +	WRITE_LIFE_EXTREME	= 5, /* RWH_WRITE_LIFE_EXTREME */
>> +} __packed;
>> +
>> +static_assert(sizeof(enum rw_hint) == 1);
> 
> Does it make sense to do away with these, and have temperature-neutral
> names instead e.g., WRITE_LIFE_1, WRITE_LIFE_2?
> 
> With the current choice:
> - If the count goes up (beyond 5 hints), infra can scale fine but these
> names do not. Imagine ULTRA_EXTREME after EXTREME.
> - Applications or in-kernel users can specify LONG hint with data that
> actually has a SHORT lifetime. Nothing really ensures that LONG is
> really LONG.
> 
> Temperature-neutral names seem more generic/scalable and do not present
> the unnecessary need to be accurate with relative temperatures.

Thanks for having taken a look at this patch series. Jens asked for data
that shows that this patch series improves performance. Is this
something Samsung can help with?

Thanks,

Bart.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-30 16:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-17 20:47 [PATCH v3 00/14] Pass data temperature information to SCSI disk devices Bart Van Assche
2023-10-17 20:47 ` [PATCH v3 01/14] fs: Move enum rw_hint into a new header file Bart Van Assche
2023-10-30 11:11   ` Kanchan Joshi
2023-10-30 16:10     ` Bart Van Assche [this message]
2023-11-01  6:39       ` Daejun Park
2023-11-01 16:45         ` (2) " Bart Van Assche
2023-11-02  7:31           ` Daejun Park
2023-10-17 20:47 ` [PATCH v3 02/14] block: Restore data lifetime support in struct bio and struct request Bart Van Assche
2023-10-17 20:47 ` [PATCH v3 03/14] fs: Restore write hint support Bart Van Assche
2023-10-17 20:47 ` [PATCH v3 04/14] fs/f2fs: Restore data lifetime support Bart Van Assche
2023-10-17 20:47 ` [PATCH v3 05/14] scsi: core: Query the Block Limits Extension VPD page Bart Van Assche
2023-10-17 20:47 ` [PATCH v3 06/14] scsi_proto: Add structures and constants related to I/O groups and streams Bart Van Assche
2023-10-17 20:47 ` [PATCH v3 07/14] sd: Translate data lifetime information Bart Van Assche
2023-10-17 20:47 ` [PATCH v3 08/14] scsi_debug: Reduce code duplication Bart Van Assche
2023-10-17 20:47 ` [PATCH v3 09/14] scsi_debug: Support the block limits extension VPD page Bart Van Assche
2023-10-17 20:47 ` [PATCH v3 10/14] scsi_debug: Rework page code error handling Bart Van Assche
2023-10-17 20:47 ` [PATCH v3 11/14] scsi_debug: Rework subpage " Bart Van Assche
2023-10-17 20:47 ` [PATCH v3 12/14] scsi_debug: Implement the IO Advice Hints Grouping mode page Bart Van Assche
2023-10-17 20:47 ` [PATCH v3 13/14] scsi_debug: Implement GET STREAM STATUS Bart Van Assche
2023-10-17 20:47 ` [PATCH v3 14/14] scsi_debug: Maintain write statistics per group number Bart Van Assche
2023-10-18 19:09 ` [PATCH v3 00/14] Pass data temperature information to SCSI disk devices Jens Axboe
2023-10-18 19:34   ` Bart Van Assche
2023-10-19  0:33     ` Damien Le Moal
2023-10-19 16:48       ` Bart Van Assche
2023-10-19 22:40         ` Damien Le Moal
2023-10-19 23:00           ` Damien Le Moal
2023-10-20 20:45   ` Bart Van Assche

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