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From: John Garry <john.garry@huawei.com>
To: Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: <axboe@kernel.dk>, <jejb@linux.ibm.com>,
	<martin.petersen@oracle.com>, <ming.lei@redhat.com>,
	<bvanassche@acm.org>, <linux-block@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
	<virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	<esc.storagedev@microsemi.com>, <chenxiang66@hisilicon.com>,
	Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v2 02/24] scsi: allocate separate queue for reserved commands
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2020 12:54:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9c6ced82-b3f1-9724-b85e-d58827f1a4a4@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b5a63725-722b-8ccd-3867-6db192a248a4@suse.de>

On 06/04/2020 10:05, Hannes Reinecke wrote:
> On 3/11/20 7:22 AM, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>> On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 09:08:56PM +0000, John Garry wrote:
>>> On 10/03/2020 18:32, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>>>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 12:25:28AM +0800, John Garry wrote:
>>>>> From: Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> Allocate a separate 'reserved_cmd_q' for sending reserved commands.
>>>>
>>>> Why?  Reserved command specifically are not in any way tied to queues.
>>>> .
>>>>
>>>
>>> So the v1 series used a combination of the sdev queue and the per-host
>>> reserved_cmd_q. Back then you questioned using the sdev queue for virtio
>>> scsi, and the unconfirmed conclusion was to use a common per-host q. This is
>>> the best link I can find now:
>>>
>>> https://www.mail-archive.com/linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org/msg83177.html
>>
>> That was just a question on why virtio uses the per-device tags, which
>> didn't look like it made any sense.  What I'm worried about here is
>> mixing up the concept of reserved tags in the tagset, and queues to use
>> them.  Note that we already have the scsi_get_host_dev to allocate
>> a scsi_device and thus a request_queue for the host itself.  That seems
>> like the better interface to use a tag for a host wide command vs
>> introducing a parallel path.
>>
> Thinking about it some more, I don't think that scsi_get_host_dev() is
> the best way of handling it.
> Problem is that it'll create a new scsi_device with <hostno:this_id:0>,
> which will then show up via eg 'lsscsi'.

are you sure? Doesn't this function just allocate the sdev, but do 
nothing with it, like probing it?

I bludgeoned it in here for PoC:

https://github.com/hisilicon/kernel-dev/commit/ef0ae8540811e32776f64a5b42bd76cbed17ba47

And then still:

john@ubuntu:~$ lsscsi
[0:0:0:0] disk SEAGATE  ST2000NM0045  N004  /dev/sda
[0:0:1:0] disk SEAGATE  ST2000NM0045  N004  /dev/sdb
[0:0:2:0] disk ATASAMSUNG HM320JI  0_01  /dev/sdc
[0:0:3:0] disk SEAGATE  ST1000NM0023  0006  /dev/sdd
[0:0:4:0] enclosu HUAWEIExpander 12Gx16  128-
john@ubuntu:~$

Some proper plumbing would be needed, though.

> This would be okay if 'this_id' would have been defined by the driver;
> sadly, most drivers which are affected here do set 'this_id' to -1.
> So we wouldn't have a nice target ID to allocate the device from, let
> alone the problem that we would have to emulate a complete scsi device
> with all required minimal command support etc.
> And I'm not quite sure how well that would play with the exising SCSI
> host template; the device we'll be allocating would have basically
> nothing in common with the 'normal' SCSI devices.
> 
> What we could do, though, is to try it the other way round:
> Lift the request queue from scsi_get_host_dev() into the scsi host
> itself, so that scsi_get_host_dev() can use that queue, but we also
> would be able to use it without a SCSI device attached.

wouldn't that limit 1x scsi device per host, not that I know if any more 
would ever be required? But it does still seem better to use the request 
queue in the scsi device.

> 

cheers,
John

  reply	other threads:[~2020-04-07 11:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-10 16:25 [PATCH RFC v2 00/24] scsi: enable reserved commands for LLDDs John Garry
2020-03-10 16:25 ` [PATCH RFC v2 01/24] scsi: add 'nr_reserved_cmds' field to the SCSI host template John Garry
2020-03-10 23:08   ` Ming Lei
2020-03-11  6:55     ` Hannes Reinecke
2020-03-11  8:00       ` Ming Lei
2020-03-10 16:25 ` [PATCH RFC v2 02/24] scsi: allocate separate queue for reserved commands John Garry
2020-03-10 18:32   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-03-10 21:08     ` John Garry
2020-03-11  6:22       ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-03-11  6:58         ` Hannes Reinecke
2020-03-11  7:51           ` John Garry
2020-04-06  9:05         ` Hannes Reinecke
2020-04-07 11:54           ` John Garry [this message]
2020-04-07 14:00             ` Hannes Reinecke
2020-04-07 14:35               ` John Garry
2020-04-07 14:45                 ` Hannes Reinecke
2020-04-07 15:19                   ` John Garry
2020-04-07 16:30               ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-23 14:13                 ` John Garry
2020-04-23 14:49                   ` Hannes Reinecke
2020-04-23 15:33                     ` John Garry
2020-03-10 16:25 ` [PATCH RFC v2 03/24] blk-mq: Implement blk_mq_rq_is_reserved() John Garry
2020-03-10 16:25 ` [PATCH RFC v2 04/24] scsi: Add scsi_{get, put}_reserved_cmd() John Garry
2020-03-10 16:25 ` [PATCH RFC v2 05/24] csiostor: use reserved command for LUN reset John Garry
2020-03-10 16:25 ` [PATCH RFC v2 06/24] scsi: add scsi_cmd_from_priv() John Garry
2020-03-10 16:25 ` [PATCH RFC v2 07/24] virtio_scsi: use reserved commands for TMF John Garry
2020-03-10 16:25 ` [PATCH RFC v2 08/24] scsi: add host tagset busy iterator John Garry
2020-03-10 16:25 ` [PATCH RFC v2 09/24] fnic: use reserved commands John Garry
2020-03-10 16:25 ` [PATCH RFC v2 10/24] fnic: use scsi_host_tagset_busy_iter() to traverse commands John Garry
2020-03-10 16:25 ` [PATCH RFC v2 11/24] hpsa: move hpsa_hba_inquiry after scsi_add_host() John Garry
2020-03-10 16:25 ` [PATCH RFC v2 12/24] hpsa: use reserved commands John Garry
2020-03-11  8:10   ` Ming Lei
2020-03-17  9:38     ` John Garry
2020-03-17  9:48       ` Hannes Reinecke
2020-03-30 13:42         ` John Garry
2020-03-10 16:25 ` [PATCH RFC v2 13/24] hpsa: use blk_mq_tagset_busy_iter() to traverse outstanding commands John Garry
2020-03-10 16:25 ` [PATCH RFC v2 14/24] hpsa: drop refcount field from CommandList John Garry
2020-03-10 16:25 ` [PATCH RFC v2 15/24] snic: use reserved commands John Garry
2020-03-10 16:25 ` [PATCH RFC v2 16/24] snic: use tagset iter for traversing commands John Garry
2020-03-10 16:25 ` [PATCH RFC v2 17/24] aacraid: move scsi_add_host() John Garry
2020-03-10 16:25 ` [PATCH RFC v2 18/24] aacraid: use private commands John Garry
2020-03-10 16:25 ` [PATCH RFC v2 19/24] aacraid: replace cmd_list with scsi_host_tagset_busy_iter() John Garry
2020-03-10 16:25 ` [PATCH RFC v2 20/24] aacraid: use scsi_host_tagset_busy_iter() to traverse outstanding commands John Garry
2020-03-10 16:25 ` [PATCH RFC v2 21/24] dpt_i2o: drop cmd_list usage John Garry
2020-03-10 16:25 ` [PATCH RFC v2 22/24] scsi: drop scsi command list John Garry
2020-03-10 18:35   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-03-10 20:47     ` John Garry
2020-03-10 16:25 ` [PATCH RFC v2 23/24] scsi: libsas: aic94xx: hisi_sas: mvsas: pm8001: Allocate Scsi_cmd for slow task John Garry
2020-03-10 16:25 ` [PATCH RFC v2 24/24] scsi: hisi_sas: Use libsas slow task SCSI command John Garry

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