From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12C63C433EF for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2022 06:08:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S244990AbiCKGJo (ORCPT ); Fri, 11 Mar 2022 01:09:44 -0500 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:43656 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1347069AbiCKGIj (ORCPT ); Fri, 11 Mar 2022 01:08:39 -0500 Received: from bombadil.infradead.org (bombadil.infradead.org [IPv6:2607:7c80:54:e::133]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E845011C24; Thu, 10 Mar 2022 22:07:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infradead.org; s=bombadil.20210309; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version :References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description; bh=+zZX32PSi2aSL+p5ZY5IzG4d4sdNCU/3SVS19/PoUrc=; b=zj31q3hD7GXCmzaT+IWFsScjCU T+rT5A+RBalworv2YZPS7FV/Ba+v6f8QdF8OHksrdNGIlC32VTHTDcLRusyG7t3PBMiTxO4Ig96KP OJVMuHzSpN6OsW0n2n4erVKunciY2V8oEIuU+BF61gf66mcg4rgjwmoBg1ht9Nw/h1OME4DZCZe4f Aj4FQn4nAwCLXq5bsDiI/ZynnFgYiU1pZVR2Vc9tue4j3AhZQyRnzDBsepz16NGeXSTLKnBS4pQOT oYYbG14sVtjJaaOSGvYjf67hPHJ61kV1wcEY0LVZadooezU2RCSaMyoFin3gKO5wJHitwwKD0W8bM yPMLCp/A==; Received: from hch by bombadil.infradead.org with local (Exim 4.94.2 #2 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1nSYR0-00FDuY-Cs; Fri, 11 Mar 2022 06:07:30 +0000 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 22:07:30 -0800 From: Christoph Hellwig To: Luis Chamberlain Cc: Dave Chinner , Javier =?iso-8859-1?Q?Gonz=E1lez?= , linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org, Matias =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rling?= , Damien Le Moal , Bart Van Assche , Adam Manzanares , Keith Busch , Johannes Thumshirn , Naohiro Aota , Pankaj Raghav , Kanchan Joshi , Nitesh Shetty , Jaegeuk Kim Subject: Re: [LSF/MM/BPF BoF] BoF for Zoned Storage Message-ID: References: <20220304001022.GJ3927073@dread.disaster.area> <20220304224257.GN3927073@dread.disaster.area> <20220305073321.5apdknpmctcvo3qj@ArmHalley.localdomain> <20220307071229.GR3927073@dread.disaster.area> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-SRS-Rewrite: SMTP reverse-path rewritten from by bombadil.infradead.org. See http://www.infradead.org/rpr.html Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-block@vger.kernel.org On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 04:49:06PM -0800, Luis Chamberlain wrote: > Some filesystems who want to support zone storage natively have been > extended to do things to help with these quirks. My concerns were the > divergence on approaches to how filesystems use ZNS as well. Do you have > any plans to consider such efforts for XFS or would you rather build on > ZoneFS somehow? XFS will always require a random writable area for metadata. I have an old early draft with a fully zone aware allocator essentially replacing the realtime subvolume. But it's been catching dust so far, maybe I'll have a chance to resurrect it if I don't have too fight too many stupid patchseries all at once.