From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08266C433F5 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2022 08:46:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S235408AbiCKIrT (ORCPT ); Fri, 11 Mar 2022 03:47:19 -0500 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:52168 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229886AbiCKIrS (ORCPT ); Fri, 11 Mar 2022 03:47:18 -0500 Received: from bombadil.infradead.org (bombadil.infradead.org [IPv6:2607:7c80:54:e::133]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 712A01BA927; Fri, 11 Mar 2022 00:46:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infradead.org; s=bombadil.20210309; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding :Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date: Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID:Content-Description; bh=BjiPEUQ71tUca48iumOg0cUwE/Qm4Dl7SatHwSELFAc=; b=may5sVdzPgFlyETPK7ghtZvL5M vgNtRztfRnK9qJofT147hObMIaiwlMnNzQS6+E3AVeQ8wktFUGXwjTxmUSD/nOxOgkKTY4D7uUlg6 xeWvW3cVT05G3RaquuEhz35yEAcFJVpVAt8HpwoOHhOFEE6SXlK0STmk0sIADpqfHMKKoj6nCQG/T 316KJGS4RYxR9p4hbSLWL2W+aC9lI3IMG/wS3KNg/D08NaT/Me2VtgXtigQBWktQWocclIzzVk9Wp lQd1Ls9dsXT0vyllvRqMl03m3dl4fJozm7AyeuUb27ZCQ1apO6f//LEvwk4q2LCAiSRec3JrkVRfm 3pdjhvqg==; Received: from hch by bombadil.infradead.org with local (Exim 4.94.2 #2 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1nSauY-00Ffe1-PO; Fri, 11 Mar 2022 08:46:10 +0000 Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2022 00:46:10 -0800 From: Christoph Hellwig To: Javier =?iso-8859-1?Q?Gonz=E1lez?= Cc: Christoph Hellwig , Damien Le Moal , Keith Busch , James Bottomley , Luis Chamberlain , Dave Chinner , linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org, Matias =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rling?= , Damien Le Moal , Bart Van Assche , Adam Manzanares , Keith Busch , Johannes Thumshirn , Naohiro Aota , Pankaj Raghav , Kanchan Joshi , Nitesh Shetty Subject: Re: [LSF/MM/BPF BoF] BoF for Zoned Storage Message-ID: References: <69932637edee8e6d31bafa5fd39e19a9790dd4ab.camel@HansenPartnership.com> <20220307151556.GB3260574@dhcp-10-100-145-180.wdc.com> <8f8255c3-5fa8-310b-9925-1e4e8b105547@opensource.wdc.com> <20220311072101.k52rkmsnecolsoel@ArmHalley.localdomain> <61c1b49c-cd34-614a-876a-29b796e4ff0d@opensource.wdc.com> <20220311075317.fjn3mj25dpicnpgi@ArmHalley.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20220311075317.fjn3mj25dpicnpgi@ArmHalley.local> X-SRS-Rewrite: SMTP reverse-path rewritten from by bombadil.infradead.org. See http://www.infradead.org/rpr.html Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-block@vger.kernel.org On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 08:53:17AM +0100, Javier González wrote: > How do you propose we meed the request from Damien to support _all_ > existing users if we remove the PO2 constraint from the block layer? By actually making the users support it. Not by adding crap to block drivers to pretend that they are exposing something totally different than what they actually are.