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From: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Demi Marie Obenour <demi@invisiblethingslab.com>
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Block Mailing List <linux-block@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Filesystem Mailing List <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Race-free block device opening
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2022 20:35:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Ymg7dihxLG923vs3@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Ymg2HIc8NGraPNbM@itl-email>

On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 02:12:22PM -0400, Demi Marie Obenour wrote:
> Right now, opening block devices in a race-free way is incredibly hard.
> The only reasonable approach I know of is sd_device_new_from_path() +
> sd_device_open(), and is only available in systemd git main.  It also
> requires waiting on systemd-udev to have processed udev rules, which can
> be a bottleneck.  There are better approaches in various special cases,
> such as using device-mapper ioctls to check that the device one has
> opened still has the name and/or UUID one expects.  However, none of
> them works for a plain call to open(2).

Why do you call open(2) on a block device?

> A much better approach would be for udev to point its symlinks at
> "/dev/disk/by-diskseq/$DISKSEQ" for non-partition disk devices, or at
> "/dev/disk/by-diskseq/${DISKSEQ}p${PARTITION}" for partitions.

You can do that today with udev rules, right?

> A
> filesystem would then be mounted at "/dev/disk/by-diskseq" that provides
> for race-free opening of these paths.

How would it be any less race-free than just open("/dev/sda1") is?

> This could be implemented in
> userspace using FUSE, either with difficulty using the current kernel
> API, or easily and efficiently using a new kernel API for opening a
> block device by diskseq + partition.  However, I think this should be
> handled by the Linux kernel itself.
> 
> What would be necessary to get this into the kernel?

Get what exactly?  I don't see anything the kernel needs to do here
specifically.  Normally block devices are accessed using mount(2), not
open(2).  Do you want a new mount(2)-type api?

thanks,

greg k-h

  reply	other threads:[~2022-04-26 18:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-26 18:12 Race-free block device opening Demi Marie Obenour
2022-04-26 18:35 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman [this message]
2022-04-26 21:31   ` Demi Marie Obenour
2022-04-26 22:07     ` Demi Marie Obenour
2022-04-27 13:29 ` James Bottomley
2022-05-07 11:35   ` Demi Marie Obenour

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