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From: Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>
To: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
Cc: Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@gmail.com>,
	Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, dm-devel@redhat.com,
	Eric Biggers <ebiggers@google.com>,
	Dmitry Monakhov <dmonakhov@openvz.org>,
	"Martin K . Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5.20 1/4] block: add bio_rewind() API
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2022 08:49:24 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YruhlPDqZMorCFip@T590> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3ad782c3-4425-9ae6-e61b-9f62f76ce9f4@kernel.dk>

On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 12:13:06PM -0600, Jens Axboe wrote:
> On 6/27/22 10:20 PM, Kent Overstreet wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 03:36:22PM +0800, Ming Lei wrote:
> >> On Sun, Jun 26, 2022 at 04:14:58PM -0400, Kent Overstreet wrote:
> >>> On Fri, Jun 24, 2022 at 10:12:52PM +0800, Ming Lei wrote:
> >>>> Commit 7759eb23fd98 ("block: remove bio_rewind_iter()") removes
> >>>> the similar API because the following reasons:
> >>>>
> >>>>     ```
> >>>>     It is pointed that bio_rewind_iter() is one very bad API[1]:
> >>>>
> >>>>     1) bio size may not be restored after rewinding
> >>>>
> >>>>     2) it causes some bogus change, such as 5151842b9d8732 (block: reset
> >>>>     bi_iter.bi_done after splitting bio)
> >>>>
> >>>>     3) rewinding really makes things complicated wrt. bio splitting
> >>>>
> >>>>     4) unnecessary updating of .bi_done in fast path
> >>>>
> >>>>     [1] https://marc.info/?t=153549924200005&r=1&w=2
> >>>>
> >>>>     So this patch takes Kent's suggestion to restore one bio into its original
> >>>>     state via saving bio iterator(struct bvec_iter) in bio_integrity_prep(),
> >>>>     given now bio_rewind_iter() is only used by bio integrity code.
> >>>>     ```
> >>>>
> >>>> However, it isn't easy to restore bio by saving 32 bytes bio->bi_iter, and saving
> >>>> it only can't restore crypto and integrity info.
> >>>>
> >>>> Add bio_rewind() back for some use cases which may not be same with
> >>>> previous generic case:
> >>>>
> >>>> 1) most of bio has fixed end sector since bio split is done from front of the bio,
> >>>> if driver just records how many sectors between current bio's start sector and
> >>>> the bio's end sector, the original position can be restored
> >>>>
> >>>> 2) if one bio's end sector won't change, usually bio_trim() isn't called, user can
> >>>> restore original position by storing sectors from current ->bi_iter.bi_sector to
> >>>> bio's end sector; together by saving bio size, 8 bytes can restore to
> >>>> original bio.
> >>>>
> >>>> 3) dm's requeue use case: when BLK_STS_DM_REQUEUE happens, dm core needs to
> >>>> restore to the original bio which represents current dm io to be requeued.
> >>>> By storing sectors to the bio's end sector and dm io's size,
> >>>> bio_rewind() can restore such original bio, then dm core code needn't to
> >>>> allocate one bio beforehand just for handling BLK_STS_DM_REQUEUE which
> >>>> is actually one unusual event.
> >>>>
> >>>> 4) Not like original rewind API, this one needn't to add .bi_done, and no any
> >>>> effect on fast path
> >>>
> >>> It seems like perhaps the real issue here is that we need a real bio_iter,
> >>> separate from bvec_iter, that also encapsulates iterating over integrity &
> >>> fscrypt. 
> >>
> >> Not mention bio_iter, bvec_iter has been 32 bytes, which is too big to
> >> hold in per-io data structure. With this patch, 8bytes is enough
> >> to rewind one bio if the end sector is fixed.
> > 
> > Hold on though, does that check out? Why is that too big for per IO data
> > structures?
> > 
> > By definition these structures are only for IOs in flight, and we don't _want_
> > there to ever be very many of these or we're going to run into latency issues
> > due to queue depth.
> 
> It's much less about using whatever amount of memory for inflight IO,
> and much more about not bloating fast path structures (of which the bio
> is certainly one). All of this gunk has to be initialized for each IO,
> and that's the real issue.

Can't agree more, especially the initialization is just for the unusual
DM_REQUEUE event(bio rewind is needed).


Thanks,
Ming


  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-06-29  0:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-24 14:12 [PATCH 5.20 0/4] block/dm: add bio_rewind for improving dm requeue Ming Lei
2022-06-24 14:12 ` [PATCH 5.20 1/4] block: add bio_rewind() API Ming Lei
2022-06-26 20:14   ` Kent Overstreet
2022-06-27  7:36     ` Ming Lei
2022-06-28  4:20       ` Kent Overstreet
2022-06-28  7:42         ` Ming Lei
2022-06-28 16:16           ` Kent Overstreet
2022-06-28 18:13         ` Jens Axboe
2022-06-28 18:32           ` Kent Overstreet
2022-06-29 17:16             ` Jens Axboe
2022-06-29 18:40               ` Kent Overstreet
2022-06-29 18:51                 ` Bart Van Assche
2022-06-29 19:05                   ` Kent Overstreet
2022-06-29 19:37                     ` Bart Van Assche
2022-06-29 19:50                       ` Kent Overstreet
2022-06-29 19:59                       ` Kent Overstreet
2022-06-29 19:00                 ` Jens Axboe
2022-06-29 19:26                   ` Kent Overstreet
2022-06-29 20:51                     ` Jens Axboe
2022-06-29  0:49           ` Ming Lei [this message]
2022-06-28  4:26       ` Kent Overstreet
2022-06-28  7:49         ` Ming Lei
2022-06-28 16:36           ` Kent Overstreet
2022-06-28 17:41             ` Mike Snitzer
2022-06-28 17:52               ` Kent Overstreet
2022-06-29  6:07                 ` Mike Snitzer
2022-06-29 18:11                   ` Kent Overstreet
2022-06-30  0:47                     ` Ming Lei
2022-06-30  0:58                       ` Kent Overstreet
2022-06-30  1:14                       ` Kent Overstreet
2022-07-01  3:58                         ` Ming Lei
2022-07-01 21:09                           ` Kent Overstreet
2022-06-29  1:02             ` Ming Lei
2022-06-26 21:37   ` [dm-devel] " Eric Biggers
2022-06-27  7:37     ` Ming Lei
2022-06-24 14:12 ` [PATCH 5.20 2/4] dm: add new helper for handling dm_io requeue Ming Lei
2022-06-24 14:12 ` [PATCH 5.20 3/4] dm: improve handling for DM_REQUEUE and AGAIN Ming Lei
2022-06-24 14:12 ` [PATCH 5.20 4/4] dm: add two stage requeue Ming Lei

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