From: Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>
To: John Garry <john.g.garry@oracle.com>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
linux-block@vger.kernel.org, Yi Zhang <yi.zhang@redhat.com>,
Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@acm.org>,
Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2] block: make segment size limit workable for > 4K PAGE_SIZE
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2025 18:35:35 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z63K99wkFLWqIfxW@fedora> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <63bdc82a-fa01-44ae-9142-2cb649d34fb7@oracle.com>
On Thu, Feb 13, 2025 at 10:23:02AM +0000, John Garry wrote:
> On 13/02/2025 09:58, Ming Lei wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 13, 2025 at 08:45:18AM +0000, John Garry wrote:
> > > On 10/02/2025 09:03, Ming Lei wrote:
> > > > PAGE_SIZE is applied in some block device queue limits, this way is
> > > > very fragile and is wrong:
> > > >
> > > > - queue limits are read from hardware, which is often one readonly
> > > > hardware property
> > > >
> > > > - PAGE_SIZE is one config option which can be changed during build time.
> > > >
> > > > In RH lab, it has been found that max segment size of some mmc card is
> > > > less than 64K, then this kind of card can't work in case of 64K PAGE_SIZE.
> > > >
> > > > Fix this issue by using BLK_MIN_SEGMENT_SIZE in related code for dealing
> > > > with queue limits and checking if bio needn't split. Define BLK_MIN_SEGMENT_SIZE
> > > > as 4K(minimized PAGE_SIZE).
> > > Please note that blk_queue_max_quaranteed_bio() for atomic writes assumes
> > > that we can fit a PAGE_SIZE in a segment. I suppose that if the
> > > max_segment_size < PAGE_SIZE is supported, then the calculation there needs
> > > to change.
> > It isn't related with blk_queue_max_guaranteed_bio() which calculates the max
> > allowed ubuf bytes which can fit in a bio, so PAGE_SIZE has to be used here.
> >
> > BLK_MIN_SEGMENT_SIZE is just one hint which can be used to check if one
> > bvec can fit in single segment quickly, otherwise the normal split code
> > path is run into.
>
> So consider we have PAGE_SIZE > 4k and max_segment_size=4k, if an iovec has
> PAGE_SIZE then a bvec can also have PAGE_SIZE but then we need to split into
> multiple segments, right?
Yes, hardware limit needs to be respected.
Looks one write atomic application trouble in case of 64K page size,
and it can't work w/wo this patchset.
Thanks,
Ming
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-02-13 10:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-02-10 9:03 [PATCH V2] block: make segment size limit workable for > 4K PAGE_SIZE Ming Lei
2025-02-10 12:14 ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-02-10 13:26 ` Ming Lei
2025-02-10 20:17 ` Luis Chamberlain
2025-02-11 2:10 ` Ming Lei
2025-02-13 7:34 ` Daniel Gomez
2025-02-13 8:02 ` Ming Lei
2025-02-13 8:30 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-02-13 8:51 ` Ming Lei
2025-02-13 14:18 ` Daniel Gomez
2025-02-14 1:37 ` Ming Lei
2025-02-13 8:33 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-02-13 8:45 ` John Garry
2025-02-13 9:58 ` Ming Lei
2025-02-13 10:23 ` John Garry
2025-02-13 10:35 ` Ming Lei [this message]
2025-02-13 11:12 ` John Garry
2025-02-13 11:33 ` Ming Lei
2025-02-13 11:41 ` John Garry
2025-02-14 9:38 ` Daniel Gomez
2025-02-14 11:19 ` Ming Lei
2025-02-14 12:28 ` Daniel Gomez
2025-02-14 12:51 ` Ming Lei
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