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From: "hch@infradead.org" <hch@infradead.org>
To: Qu Wenruo <wqu@suse.com>
Cc: "hch@infradead.org" <hch@infradead.org>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Johannes Thumshirn <Johannes.Thumshirn@wdc.com>,
	Kanchan Joshi <joshi.k@samsung.com>,
	Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
	"lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org"
	<lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	"linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org" <linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org>,
	"linux-block@vger.kernel.org" <linux-block@vger.kernel.org>,
	"josef@toxicpanda.com" <josef@toxicpanda.com>
Subject: Re: [LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC] File system checksum offload
Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2025 00:40:22 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z6CA9sDUZ_nDj5LD@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <efcb712d-15f9-49ab-806d-a924a614034f@suse.com>

On Mon, Feb 03, 2025 at 07:06:15PM +1030, Qu Wenruo wrote:
> Thus my current plan to fix it is to make btrfs to skip csum for direct IO.
> This will make btrfs to align with EXT4/XFS behavior, without the complex
> AS_STABLE_FLAGS passing (and there is no way for user space to probe that
> flag IIRC).
> 
> But that will break the current per-inode level NODATASUM setting, and will
> cause some incompatibility (a new incompat flag needed, extra handling if no
> data csum found, extra fsck support etc).

I don't think simply removing the checksums when using direct I/O is
a good idea as it unexpectedly reduces the protection envelope.  The
best (or least bad) fix would be to simply not support actually direct
I/O without NODATASUM and fall back to buffered I/O (preferably the new
uncached variant from Jens) unless explicitly overridden.


  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-03  8:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <CGME20250130092400epcas5p1a3a9d899583e9502ed45fe500ae8a824@epcas5p1.samsung.com>
2025-01-30  9:15 ` [LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC] File system checksum offload Kanchan Joshi
2025-01-30 14:28   ` Theodore Ts'o
2025-01-30 20:39     ` [Lsf-pc] " Martin K. Petersen
2025-01-31  4:40       ` Theodore Ts'o
2025-01-31  7:07         ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-01-31 13:11     ` Kanchan Joshi
2025-02-03  7:47       ` Johannes Thumshirn
2025-02-03  7:56         ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-02-03  8:04           ` Johannes Thumshirn
2025-02-03  8:06             ` hch
2025-02-03  8:16             ` Qu Wenruo
2025-02-03  8:26               ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-02-03  8:30                 ` hch
2025-02-03  8:36                   ` Qu Wenruo
2025-02-03  8:40                     ` hch [this message]
2025-02-03  8:51                       ` Qu Wenruo
2025-02-03  8:57                         ` hch
2025-02-03  8:26               ` hch
2025-02-03 13:27               ` Kanchan Joshi
2025-02-03 23:17                 ` Qu Wenruo
2025-02-04  5:48                   ` hch
2025-02-04  5:16                 ` hch
2025-03-18  7:06                   ` Kanchan Joshi
2025-03-18  8:07                     ` hch
2025-03-19 18:06                       ` Kanchan Joshi
2025-03-20  5:48                         ` hch
2025-02-03 13:32         ` Kanchan Joshi

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