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From: Benjamin Marzinski <bmarzins@redhat.com>
To: Damien Le Moal <dlemoal@kernel.org>
Cc: Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com>,
	Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	dm-devel@lists.linux.dev, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/7] dm: fix issues with swapping dm tables
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2025 12:38:13 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z88VdfOmo1MU73ue@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <788a1ec4-ac86-40fb-a709-eba7e6d5535f@kernel.org>

On Mon, Mar 10, 2025 at 08:16:43AM +0900, Damien Le Moal wrote:
> On 3/10/25 07:28, Benjamin Marzinski wrote:
> > There were multiple places in dm's __bind() function where it could fail
> > and not completely roll back, leaving the device using the the old
> > table, but with device limits and resources from the new table.
> > Additionally, unused mempools for request-based devices were not always
> > freed immediately.
> > 
> > Finally, there were a number of issues with switching zoned tables that
> > emulate zone append (in other words, dm-crypt on top of zoned devices).
> > dm_blk_report_zones() could be called while the device was suspended and
> > modifying zoned resources or could possibly fail to end a srcu read
> > section.  More importantly, blk_revalidate_disk_zones() would never get
> > called when updating a zoned table. This could cause the dm device to
> > see the wrong zone write offsets, not have a large enough zwplugs
> > reserved in its mempool, or read invalid memory when checking the
> > conventional zones bitmap.
> > 
> > This patchset fixes these issues. It does not make it so that
> > device-mapper is able to load any zoned table from any other zoned
> > table. Zoned dm-crypt devices can be safely grown and shrunk, but
> > reloading a zoned dm-crypt device to, for instance, point at a
> > completely different underlying device won't work correctly. IO might
> > fail since the zone write offsets of the dm-crypt device will not be
> > updated for all the existing zones with plugs. If the new device's zone
> > offsets don't match the old device's offsets, IO to the zone will fail.
> > If the ability to switch tables from a zoned dm-crypt device to an
> > abritry other zoned dm-crypt device is important to people, it could be
> > done as long as there are no plugged zones when dm suspends.
> 
> Thanks for fixing this.
> 
> Given that in the general case switching tables will always likely result in
> unaligned write errors, I think we should just report a ENOTSUPP error if the
> user attempts to swap tables.

If we don't think there's any interest in growing or shrinking zoned
dm-crypt devices, that's fine.  I do think we should make an exception
for switching to the dm-error target. We specifically call that out with
DM_TARGET_WILDCARD so that we can always switch to it from any table if
we just want to fail out all the IO.

-Ben
 
> > This patchset also doesn't touch the code for switching from a zoned to
> > a non-zoned device. Switching from a zoned dm-crypt device to a
> > non-zoned device is problematic if there are plugged zones, since the
> > underlying device will not be prepared to handle these plugged writes.
> > Switching to a target that does not pass down IOs, like the dm-error
> > target, is fine. So is switching when there are no plugged zones, except
> > that we do not free the zoned resources in this case, even though we
> > safely could.
> 
> This is another case that does not make much sense in practice. So instead of
> still allowing it knowing that it most likely will not work, we should return
> ENOTSUPP here too I think.
> 
> > If people are interested in removing some of these limitations, I can
> > send patches for them, but I'm not sure how much extra code we want,
> > just to support niche zoned dm-crypt reloads.
> 
> I have never heard any complaints/bug reports from people attempting this. Which
> likely means that no-one is needing/trying to do this. So as mentionned above,
> we should make sure that this feature is not reported as not supported with a
> ENOTSUPP error, and maybe a warning.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Damien Le Moal
> Western Digital Research


  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-10 16:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-09 22:28 [RFC PATCH 0/7] dm: fix issues with swapping dm tables Benjamin Marzinski
2025-03-09 22:28 ` [PATCH 1/7] dm: don't change md if dm_table_set_restrictions() fails Benjamin Marzinski
2025-03-09 23:18   ` Damien Le Moal
2025-03-10 16:39     ` Benjamin Marzinski
2025-03-09 22:28 ` [PATCH 2/7] dm: free table mempools if not used in __bind Benjamin Marzinski
2025-03-09 23:19   ` Damien Le Moal
2025-03-09 22:28 ` [PATCH 3/7] dm: handle failures in dm_table_set_restrictions Benjamin Marzinski
2025-03-09 23:25   ` Damien Le Moal
2025-03-10 17:37     ` Benjamin Marzinski
2025-03-10 18:15       ` Benjamin Marzinski
2025-03-10 23:27         ` Damien Le Moal
2025-03-14 13:38           ` Mikulas Patocka
2025-03-14 13:46             ` Mikulas Patocka
2025-03-10 23:16       ` Damien Le Moal
2025-03-09 22:29 ` [PATCH 4/7] dm: fix dm_blk_report_zones Benjamin Marzinski
2025-03-09 23:27   ` Damien Le Moal
2025-03-09 22:29 ` [PATCH 5/7] blk-zoned: clean up zone settings for devices without zwplugs Benjamin Marzinski
2025-03-09 23:31   ` Damien Le Moal
2025-03-09 22:29 ` [RFC PATCH 6/7] blk-zoned: modify blk_revalidate_disk_zones for bio-based drivers Benjamin Marzinski
2025-03-09 22:29 ` [RFC PATCH 7/7] dm: allow devices to revalidate existing zones Benjamin Marzinski
2025-03-09 23:59   ` Damien Le Moal
2025-03-10 17:43     ` Benjamin Marzinski
2025-03-10 23:19       ` Damien Le Moal
2025-03-10 23:42         ` Benjamin Marzinski
2025-03-11  0:00           ` Damien Le Moal
2025-03-09 23:16 ` [RFC PATCH 0/7] dm: fix issues with swapping dm tables Damien Le Moal
2025-03-10 16:38   ` Benjamin Marzinski [this message]
2025-03-10 23:13     ` Damien Le Moal

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