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From: Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, Jooyung Han <jooyung@google.com>,
	Mike Snitzer <snitzer@kernel.org>,
	zkabelac@redhat.com, dm-devel@lists.linux.dev,
	Alasdair Kergon <agk@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2 5/5] loop: add hint for handling aio via IOCB_NOWAIT
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2025 15:38:18 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z9vF6vophr8uw66p@fedora> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250320072247.GD14337@lst.de>

On Thu, Mar 20, 2025 at 08:22:47AM +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 14, 2025 at 10:11:45AM +0800, Ming Lei wrote:
> > Add hint for using IOCB_NOWAIT to handle loop aio command for avoiding
> > to cause write(especially randwrite) perf regression on sparse file.
> > 
> > Try IOCB_NOWAIT in the following situations:
> > 
> > - backing file is block device
> 
> Why limit yourself to block devices?

It doesn't limit to block device, just submit NOWAIT unconditionally.

I should have added 'OR' among the three lines.

> 
> > - READ aio command
> > - there isn't queued aio non-NOWAIT WRITE, since retry of NOWAIT won't
> > cause contention on WRITE and non-NOWAIT WRITE often implies exclusive
> > lock.
> 
> This reads really odd because to me the list implies that you only
> support reads, but the code also supports writes.  Maybe try to
> explain this more clearly.

Will improve the comment log.

> 
> > With this simple policy, perf regression of randwrte/write on sparse
> > backing file is fixed. Meantime this way addresses perf problem[1] in
> > case of stable FS block mapping via NOWAIT.
> 
> This needs to go in with the patch implementing the logic.

OK.

> 
> > @@ -70,6 +70,7 @@ struct loop_device {
> >  	struct rb_root          worker_tree;
> >  	struct timer_list       timer;
> >  	bool			sysfs_inited;
> > +	unsigned 		queued_wait_write;
> 
> lo_nr_blocking_writes?
> 
> What serializes access to this variable?

The write is serialized by the loop spin lock, and the read is done
via READ_ONCE(), since it is just a hint.

> 
> > +static inline bool lo_aio_need_try_nowait(struct loop_device *lo,
> > +		struct loop_cmd *cmd)
> 
> Drop the need_ in the name, it not only is superfluous, but also
> makes it really hard to read the function name.

OK.


Thanks, 
Ming


  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-20  7:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-14  2:11 [PATCH V2 0/5] loop: improve loop aio perf by IOCB_NOWAIT Ming Lei
2025-03-14  2:11 ` [PATCH V2 1/5] loop: simplify do_req_filebacked() Ming Lei
2025-03-20  7:10   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-14  2:11 ` [PATCH V2 2/5] loop: cleanup lo_rw_aio() Ming Lei
2025-03-20  7:11   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-14  2:11 ` [PATCH V2 3/5] loop: move command blkcg/memcg initialization into loop_queue_work Ming Lei
2025-03-20  7:14   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-14  2:11 ` [PATCH V2 4/5] loop: try to handle loop aio command via NOWAIT IO first Ming Lei
2025-03-14  2:11 ` [PATCH V2 5/5] loop: add hint for handling aio via IOCB_NOWAIT Ming Lei
2025-03-20  7:22   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-20  7:38     ` Ming Lei [this message]
2025-03-14  2:16 ` [PATCH V2 0/5] loop: improve loop aio perf by IOCB_NOWAIT Ming Lei

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