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From: Jaegeuk Kim <jaegeuk@kernel.org>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: Damien Le Moal <dlemoal@kernel.org>,
	Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@acm.org>,
	Niklas Cassel <nks@flawful.org>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>,
	Matias Bjorling <mb@lightnvm.io>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 10/11] block: Add support for the zone capacity concept
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2023 10:58:50 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZEbDWqdU8hXVLYhD@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230424060139.GA9805@lst.de>

On 04/24, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 22, 2023 at 07:25:33AM +0900, Damien Le Moal wrote:
> > >> for allocating blocks. This is a resource management issue.
> > > 
> > > Ok, so it seems I overlooked there might be something in the zone allocation
> > > policy. So, f2fs already manages 6 open zones by design.
> > 
> > Yes, so as long as the device allows for at least 6 active zones, there are no
> > issues with f2fs.
> 
> I don't think it's quite as rosy, because f2fs can still schedule
> I/O to the old zone after already scheduling I/O to a new zone for
> any of these 6 slots.  It'll need code to wait for all I/O to the old
> zone to finish first, similar to btrfs.

F2FS should serialize all the writes across 6 active open zones. If not, I think
it's a bug. The problem here is 1) open zone#1 through zone #6, 2) allocate all
blocks in zone #1, 3) submit all writes in zone #1, 4) allocate blocks in zone
#7, 5) submit all writes in zone #7, and so on.

In this scenario, I'm asking why F2FS needs to wait for entire write completion
between 3) and 4), which will impact performance a lot since 4) blocks syscalls.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-04-24 17:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-18 22:39 [PATCH v2 00/11] mq-deadline: Improve support for zoned block devices Bart Van Assche
2023-04-18 22:39 ` [PATCH v2 01/11] block: Simplify blk_req_needs_zone_write_lock() Bart Van Assche
2023-04-19  4:09   ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-04-18 22:39 ` [PATCH v2 02/11] block: Micro-optimize blk_req_needs_zone_write_lock() Bart Van Assche
2023-04-19  4:11   ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-04-19 18:30     ` Bart Van Assche
2023-04-20  5:00       ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-04-18 22:39 ` [PATCH v2 03/11] block: Introduce blk_rq_is_seq_zoned_write() Bart Van Assche
2023-04-19  4:50   ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-04-19 21:12     ` Bart Van Assche
2023-04-20  1:03       ` Damien Le Moal
2023-04-20  5:01         ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-04-18 22:39 ` [PATCH v2 04/11] block: mq-deadline: Simplify deadline_skip_seq_writes() Bart Van Assche
2023-04-19  4:52   ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-04-18 22:39 ` [PATCH v2 05/11] block: mq-deadline: Improve deadline_skip_seq_writes() Bart Van Assche
2023-04-18 22:39 ` [PATCH v2 06/11] block: mq-deadline: Disable head insertion for zoned writes Bart Van Assche
2023-04-19  4:30   ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-04-19 22:43     ` Bart Van Assche
2023-04-20  5:06       ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-04-20 17:00         ` Bart Van Assche
2023-04-24  7:00           ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-04-18 22:39 ` [PATCH v2 07/11] block: mq-deadline: Preserve write streams for all device types Bart Van Assche
2023-04-18 22:39 ` [PATCH v2 08/11] block: mq-deadline: Fix a race condition related to zoned writes Bart Van Assche
2023-04-19  5:07   ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-04-19 18:46     ` Bart Van Assche
2023-04-20  1:00       ` Damien Le Moal
2023-04-18 22:40 ` [PATCH v2 09/11] block: mq-deadline: Handle requeued requests correctly Bart Van Assche
2023-04-19  5:07   ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-04-19 23:01     ` Bart Van Assche
2023-04-20  1:07       ` Damien Le Moal
2023-04-18 22:40 ` [PATCH v2 10/11] block: Add support for the zone capacity concept Bart Van Assche
2023-04-20  9:23   ` Niklas Cassel
2023-04-20 17:12     ` Bart Van Assche
2023-04-20 22:00       ` Damien Le Moal
2023-04-20 22:51         ` Bart Van Assche
2023-04-20 23:37           ` Damien Le Moal
2023-04-20 23:44             ` Bart Van Assche
2023-04-20 23:53               ` Damien Le Moal
2023-04-21  0:29                 ` Jaegeuk Kim
2023-04-21  1:52                   ` Damien Le Moal
2023-04-21 20:15                     ` Jaegeuk Kim
2023-04-21 22:25                       ` Damien Le Moal
2023-04-24  6:01                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-04-24 17:58                           ` Jaegeuk Kim [this message]
2023-04-24 19:05                           ` Jaegeuk Kim
2023-04-25 13:38                           ` Damien Le Moal
2023-04-24 17:48                         ` Jaegeuk Kim
2023-04-18 22:40 ` [PATCH v2 11/11] block: mq-deadline: Respect the active zone limit Bart Van Assche

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